China's Space Program Thread II
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by78
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Some selected presentation slides from Galactic Energy:
– The maiden launch of Pallas-1 is planned for the 2nd half of 2024.
– Pallas-1A (with reusable first stage) will launch in 2025.
– Reusable Pallas-1B will first launch in 2026.
A team from Galactic Energy recently visited the Hainan Commercial Spaceport for a coordination meeting on the upcoming maiden flight of the Pallas-1 rocket. During the meeting, it was revealed that the rocket will be ready for launch this November.
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escobar
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ZK-1 launch captured by Xiguang-1(1) infrared camera
EXPACE completed a brief hop test of their methalox rocket
EXPACE completed a brief hop test of their methalox rocket
ITAR restrictions is preventing lots of countries from flying their payloads on Chinese rockets. With launch prices likely to drop with the various reusable rockets coming online over the next few years and with Chinese semiconductor/electronics becoming on par or even superior to their western counterparts, can China lure even fiercely American aligned countries like Europe to launch payloads on Chinese rockets?
All of which China can offer easily.
Also, I have heard that the first launch of the CZ-10 will be in 2025/2026, will this be the triple core version or the single core CZ-10A version?
Why do you think something like that is a business based on price and quality? Satellite and launch service is 100% NOT market/commercial matter among China and US and Europe.
It is like Russian natrual gas and EU, Huawei/ZTE equipment and US/EU, Lithography/Semiconductor trade. Price/Insurance/tech spec do not matter. US will NEVER allow any country to have China launching a satellite with even just an American screw, even if the launch is free. A NATO country will never have China to launch their satellite even if it is free of American bolts and nuts.
Why?
Don't see any meaning of your statement, CZ-10 is just doing the very routine job like all other crew rated rockets. CZ-10A flight is one of CZ-10 test flights. It is like sub-orbital test of first stage of a full rocket.
NO crew rocket is launched with human in its maiden flight ever. Saturn V had 2 uncrewed launches before put human on it. CZ-2F had 4 uncrewed launches first. During these launches, you either put dead weight or put some satellite to make use of it.
Even if the maiden flight is the full sized CZ-10, they will not put human on it, but could send the final design of the crew module around moon like Artimes 1 mission.
About the bold texts, I think you forget about the purpose of CZ-10. It's time plan is aiming for moon landing before 2030, that is a deadline. From maiden flight in 2026, there is no more than 4 years. There will be 3 uncrewed flights with crew module on top of it. Time is tight. On the other hand CZ-10A does not have a deadline because CZ-2F and old Shenzhou all work just fine. Realizing reusability of CZ-10A has a low priority. So either CZ-10 go first, or immediately (around a year or less) after CZ-10A, there won't be "years" for CZ-10A to prepare CZ-10.
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