China's Space Program Thread II

[by78]

Self-explanatory.

 

[gpt]

Compared with SpaceX, the group has obvious gaps and deficiencies in its development philosophy, scientific research and production model, key core technologies, and quality, efficiency and effectiveness. On the whole, it is big but not strong, big but not excellent.

Well said but I wouldn't rule out other US space capabilities either, there's still quite a bit of catching up to do: spacecraft/satellite bus design, optics industry, signal processing, deep space tracking, SAR, material science and engineering, specifically techniques for precise fabrication of exotic materials.
It does look like China is prepared to ramp up its space budget (as it has been deemed critical infrastructure) in the coming years to match SpaceX and also across the entire spectrum of space technologies.

 

[sunnymaxi]

It does look like China is prepared to ramp up its space budget (as it has been deemed critical infrastructure) in the coming years to match SpaceX and also across the entire spectrum of space technologies.

CNSA never disclose their official budget but from western source 2022 budget was US$12 Billion..

take this US$12 Billion as 85.50 Billion RMB.. we have 100 percent local supply chain. it is absolutely useless to count Dollar in mainland. and this 85+ Billion RMB is a lot money in China considering our production cost and inflation rate.

another point, in-case if CNSA thinks current budget is insufficient. they will inform respective ministry and in next meeting budget will approve after evolution with respective parties.. it will not take years as you said above. we don't work like NASA.

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regarding infrastructure , work is already going on with full speed. expanding launch facilities , all private and state owned enterprises expanding high thrust engine production/testing stands.

this year total 10 private rockets have launched. in which 9 were successful. these private players have big future plans regarding number of launches and reusable platforms.

 

[by78]

A new hydrogen liquefaction system has rolled off the production line. It's capable of producing five tons of liquid hydrogen per day.

 

[by78]

One more image of the 3rd Zhuque-2 on the launchpad. I wish it a successful launch.

 

[OppositeDay]

Landspace announces reusable Zhuque-3 rocket
【12月9日，蓝箭航天朱雀三号可复用液氧甲烷火箭官宣！-哔哩哔哩】

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[sunnymaxi]

Zhuque-2 Y3 was Very important Launch for Chinese private Space industry.. will be a game changer. IMO

Following the successful launch of Zhuque-2 Y3, LANDSPACE disclosed more details of a more advanced reusable Zhuque-3:-

76.6m tall, 4.5m body, 5.2m fairing
9 TQ-12B metholox engines provide 900t thrust at liftoff
1 TQ-15B in 2nd stage
21.3t expended to 450km LEO
18.3t recover downrange, 12.5t launch site recovery
To debut in 2025

as per the source. LANDSPACE plans to do a VTVL hop test soon

Company's official announcement -

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[pipaster]

Successful launch of the Zhuque-2 Y3. The first metholox rocket to orbit a satellite.

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[gpt]

CZ-5 w/ 19m long fairing rolled out for Dec 15 launch
Payloads possibly two GEO sats

 

[by78]

HD video + high-resolution images of the third Zhuque-2 rocket launch, which successfully inserted Tianyi-33 (天仪33) and two Honghu (鸿鹄) satellites into orbit, all three being experimental satellites. This is the world's first commercial launch of a LOX/Methane rocket.