China's Space Program Thread II

taxiya

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Something may have gone wrong. I hope this is something misconstrued or, at least, everyone is ok.

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Time to bash this "Andrew Jones" character after we get fresh photo of Jiuquan site from #2,820.

The launch pad is not the same but the time frame is the same, so here is the possible explaination of what Andrew wanted to see actually is.

See the white spots pointed by red and blue arrows. There are many features like the red pointed ones from satellite photos.

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See them in the photo.
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The blue pointed patch is a piece of concrete structure of the launch pad. The red pointed patches are features of the ground. They all look as white irregular patches from satellite photos.

The red pointed features are most likely ice or snow. Jiuquan is a very code place this time of year. Although it is inside a desert, desert in this part of world in winter does frequently get moisture frozen to thin ice or snow. If one fly over the gobi during winter time, one can easily see small patches of snow or ice here and there.

Ice and snow show up in satelitte photo over night, and disappear days later. But in Andrew's mind, it must be explosion debris showing up one day and cleaned up days later. People see what they want to see. Afterall that is how Andrew get attentions.
 

Asug

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That is, you are saying that at another launch pad (not the one that Andrew Jones is talking about) nothing exploded, but perhaps snow fell. Well, OK.
 

taxiya

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That is, you are saying that at another launch pad (not the one that Andrew Jones is talking about) nothing exploded, but perhaps snow fell. Well, OK.
Your expression is still suggesting that there is an explosion at the pad that Andrew Jones talked about. That is not what I am saying.

I am saying that white patches anywhere in the area including the pad that he talked about is not evidence to even suggest an explosion.
 

taxiya

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This NOTAM might be for a CZ-5 on Dec 15, 2023 @ 12:10 UTC from Wenchang
No other information but rumored to feature dual-launch capability (where two large geostationary belt satellites can be mounted) similar to Ariane 5 ECA.
That would be the new 19m fairing for two DFH-4s or DFH-5 + DFH-3.
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iantsai

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Thats about what I was expecting ... so 4x 18kW + other smaller panels, so total ~90kW ?

2x 18kW for Wentian and another 2x18kW for Mengtian and few other smaller panels ?

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Yes I think you are right. By now the power supplies for CSS is plentiful for all its functions.

But when the time the second Core Module is launched and two more Lab modules are attached to it, then there would be insuffcient places for the third and fourth lab modules to expand their solar panels.

Curious about what the new solar panel design would be like?
 

by78

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A Ceres-1 rocket launched from Jiuquan has successfully inserted Tianyan-16 (天雁-16) and Xingchi-1A (星池一号A) satellites into orbit. This launch was the 11th flight of the Ceres-1 launch vehicle.

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by78

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And speaking of Hall thrusters, Yidong Aerospace recently completed on-orbit verification of a new compact Hall thruster designed for micro satellites. The thrust is from 6.5 to 84mN, and the specific impulse is from 900 to 2050 seconds.

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A Long March 2C has successfully inserted three satellites into orbit: Egypt Aid-2 remote-sensing satellite for Egypt and two satellites for the
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of EllipSpace. This mission is the 499th flight of the Long March series, one launch away from the 500 mark.

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The two Starpool satellites launched yesterday feature Yidong's Hall thrusters running on krypton, which is a first for China.

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