China's SCS Strategy Thread

Wenren

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I personally despise Dr Mahathir, he is still a hardcore Sinophobic racist. This guy speaks one thing to the world and then does another thing at home, a typical hypocrite. But for this current article, I do agree with his view. Maybe he had long accepted that China is already unstoppable in Asia. Mahathir was right, China was relatively passive with its SCS claims as long as nobody heats up the SCS dispute. Every SEA nation that has a dispute with China in the SCS can still enjoy access to it as long as they keep things cordial and peaceful. Duterte-era Philippines had some frictions with China, but there were no aggressive coastguard actions on both sides on the levels we see today. Filipino fishermen could still access their claimed waters with minimal interference from China. Now, they could not access them at all without constant CCG harassment. The more Marcos Jr. pushes, the more the Philippines loses. If his big brother decides to intervene, then the SCS will instantly become a warzone and the Filipinos will truly lose safe access. There are no victory scenarios for the PH in escalation.

Nikkei tries to refute Mahathir's statement by saying that the Malaysian government does not accept China's claim in the SCS. But that is the same with all claimants in the SCS. Nobody accepts each other's claims, but nobody is gonna go to war about it. Officially that's what they have to do. But unofficially, the SCS is mostly open for access for everyone, except for the troublemakers. Nikkei wants to tell its readers that standing up to China is more important than peaceful ambiguity. I would remind Nikkei that Japan has serious maritime disputes with Russia, China, and the Two Koreas. Should Japan go to war with all of them, because its important to stand up for your claims?

Mahathir's racism is a little more complex - he hates the immigrant Chinese in Malaysia but is happy to take Chinese investment. The same contradiction is shared by UMNO, the formerly dominant political party he used to lead. Under Najib, of the 1MBD fame, tons of Chinese businessmen were given PR status in Malaysia for bringing in investment funds. All this was done quietly, of course, to avoid antagonising the Muslim Malays.

Simple fact is that most ASEAN countries and China can live with the ambiguity of having competing claims but not enforcing them to the point of raising tensions. I recall this was a point Kishore Mabubhani, the former Singaporean diplomat, made as well. It's "live and let live..." for the sake of peace and economic development.
 

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This is how low the PH government is willing to go down (planting of evidence) just for the sake of inciting more public outrage toward China, I'm surprised they didn't see any picture of Xi Jinping





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More recently there have been noticeable efforts from NATO to frame the Philippines as the Asian Ukraine, perhaps the Philippines will be sacrificed to divert China's attention from Taiwan, and even bog down China in the process.

 

Bellum_Romanum

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This is how low the PH government is willing to go down (planting of evidence) just for the sake of inciting more public outrage toward China, I'm surprised they didn't see any picture of Xi Jinping





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More recently there have been noticeable efforts from NATO to frame the Philippines as the Asian Ukraine, perhaps the Philippines will be sacrificed to divert China's attention from Taiwan, and even bog down China in the process.

There's also another purported "evidence" of Chinese PLA soldiers being in the PH based on the man's itinerary a.k.a. he literally brought with him a PLA medal depicting the rank or equivalent to Sargeant. Who the f...k does that unless the man's mission is to be to bloody obvious and a stupid show-off. But the way they're portraying the news like the one above that you linked made it seem like there's tons of undocumented and documented Chinese nationals in the Philippines that are from the PLA hiding in plain sight with a megaphone announcement of their presence. Not even the Taiwanese separatists as far as I know are these brazen and craven as the current PH govt and military are obviously doing.

War is being forced upon China as it's always been all through out it's history. People in the PH and elsewhere have short memory or have memories of the gold fish. If they want to become the Ukraine of ASEAN they better pray it doesn't happen, otherwise, they'll see their country wreck and in ruins for good.

Addendum: Taiwanese plus and the people that support such nonsensical bollocks have totally melted their brain cells forgetting that much of the PRC claims mirror that of the R.O.C. which is the current official name and position of the supposed separatist "country." The fact that they can easily set those aside as if they're suffering from a collective amnesia or outright treason (no bottom line and no principles) then what is the actual F are the military people in Taiwan defending for? Sovereignty against whom? Just from China and not the PHILIPPINES and others?

DPP and Taiwan and it's cowardly leadership and separatist people are not worth fighting and dying for. A country of make believe; a country that's more than willing to sell out it's history, cultural heritage and DNA in favour of outsiders and foreign entities over its own due to the superficial preference of a POLITICAL IDEOLOGY must be uprooted to its roots down to its last stems and leaves.
 

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I hope CCG will arrest a few fishermen soon after the new maritime law comes into effect, to demonstrate that they are serious about enforcing it. That would deter others without posing significant escalation risk, unlike those silly ideas by nationalist fools to attack the Sierra Madre directly. Spreading PCG thin and forcing them to choose where to concentrate their efforts makes far more sense than deliberately causing an incident.
 

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I hope CCG will arrest a few fishermen soon after the new maritime law comes into effect, to demonstrate that they are serious about enforcing it. That would deter others without posing significant escalation risk, unlike those silly ideas by nationalist fools to attack the Sierra Madre directly. Spreading PCG thin and forcing them to choose where to concentrate their efforts makes far more sense than deliberately causing an incident.
That's the Chinese strategy, the same can be said about Taiwan, in the SCS China had Escalatory dominance, same in the Taiwan proper. The US response was to rope her allies to make up the numbers BUT I think the American had made a huge mistake, why the Philippines? it's a liability, what contribution can it make? The Chinese strategy came from the long tradition of winning without fighting, for Westerner its a weird concept for them war is a continuation of politics which is to destroy your enemy and subjugate them. Which one work better? Well being a Chinese chauvinist I say that China civilization endure due to this strategy, Sinicization happen peacefully. It happen due to Chinese dominance and its a matter of time maybe in 2028 that the Chinese will do the same in the Second Island Chain.
 

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I hope CCG will arrest a few fishermen soon after the new maritime law comes into effect, to demonstrate that they are serious about enforcing it. That would deter others without posing significant escalation risk, unlike those silly ideas by nationalist fools to attack the Sierra Madre directly. Spreading PCG thin and forcing them to choose where to concentrate their efforts makes far more sense than deliberately causing an incident.

Muh "nothing is going to happen" Wrought: everyone who says otherwise is a stupid nationalist.

China's new maritime law was crafted to remove the BRP Sierra Madre you retard, not to remove actual fisherman.

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Pinoy coastguard delivering supplies to its grounded BRP Teresa Magbanua.

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Exclusive: China Coast Guard repels Philippine vessels attempting to land on Xianbin Jiao in SCS
 
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Bellum_Romanum

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Muh "nothing is going to happen" Wrought: everyone who says otherwise is a stupid nationalist.

China's new maritime law was crafted to remove the BRP Sierra Madre you retard, not to remove actual fisherman.

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Pinoy coastguard delivering supplies to its grounded BRP Teresa Magbanua.

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Exclusive: China Coast Guard repels Philippine vessels attempting to land on Xianbin Jiao in SCS
As Scott Ritter would say to the Filipinos: GROW UP. AMERICA IS NOT THERE TO HELP YOU.

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