China's SCS Strategy Thread

duskseeker

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Correct sir, the battle is over when China built those strategic artificial island, SCS had begun a Chinese lake. I sometimes shared @PhSt opinion, these salami tactic is a mind game to gloat and intimidate China and hope she break. That's the US, PHIL, AUSTRALIA and Japan plan and there is NO PLAN B which is a kinetic conflict. Why? because those mentioned country don't want war in their backyard and are pushing among themselves where the theater is, Japan want it in SCS and maybe Taiwan same with SK, while the Philippine want it contained in Taiwan and want those bases as a conduit for that purpose.

Filipinos, SK, Japanese and most of us in ASIA had experience the agony of war, the scars are there. Until we free ourselves from the Anglo Saxon grip we can't express our voices and opinion as our Elites are politically captured by the US. That's the true topic and China threat is being used as a convenient cover up.
LOLS not just the elites.
 

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"Good Riddance" is the majority opinion from other ASEAN states. The Filipinos ran to it's american daddy first before consulting ASEAN and now they are crying not being helped by the association. The IQ levels are really beyond 90000000
 

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"Good Riddance" is the majority opinion from other ASEAN states. The Filipinos ran to it's american daddy first before consulting ASEAN and now they are crying not being helped by the association. The IQ levels are really beyond 90000000
Its been quite awhile since I read the ASEAN charter but I'm pretty it isn't a suicide pact.

Also if Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia has less than 25% import dependency on China, what does that make them at 33%? Maybe they should ban Chinese imports and ride out the inflation, I'm sure it'll be fine.
 

lcloo

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Its been quite awhile since I read the ASEAN charter but I'm pretty it isn't a suicide pact.

Also if Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia has less than 25% import dependency on China, what does that make them at 33%? Maybe they should ban Chinese imports and ride out the inflation, I'm sure it'll be fine.
ASEAN is an economic association, they have no obligation to each other in military or defense within ASEAN charter. Though they do have bilateral and multilateral defense pact among individual members.

IIRC none of the ASEAN country has defense pact with Philippines.
 

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I would say China benefits from waiting awhile. To compare to ww2 timeline, China is currently where US was when the first Iowas and Essexs were being laid down, and Japan still had a larger navy with more CVs.

In that sense, China should wait until US fires it's first shot, which is likely to be a Pearl Harbor style attack on Chinese soil in Taiwan. The damage and scope of such an attack can be heavily limited to only propaganda value.

Honestly the value of Renjiao or Diaoyu are nearly 0. What China should aim at is high value territory that can sustain an empire in perpetuity, all of the Philippines, Japan, the whole Korean peninsula, Guam, Ryukyu, Midway and Hawaii. That is worth fighting a war over, and because of American economic malaise, the Americans themselves will bring that advantageous war to China.
I agree
My point was, Its not just Marcos or US backed puppets The whole nation is eager for a war with China
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ansy1968

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I agree
My point was, Its not just Marcos or US backed puppets The whole nation is eager for a war with China
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Like I always said Manila is not the Philippines and those survey should ask some serious question not about some fantasy. I've been ask once and the question is straight out of a Kindergarten subject that boggles the mind and of course the end product is a crap propaganda.
 

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"Good Riddance" is the majority opinion from other ASEAN states. The Filipinos ran to it's american daddy first before consulting ASEAN and now they are crying not being helped by the association. The IQ levels are really beyond 90000000
Agreed, PH is essentially an American colony now, rather than a proper member of ASEAN. The rest of ASEAN are busy making deals and growing their economies, while the PH is busy trying to stir-up a new war in the SCS (and Myanmar is mired in its own civil war). Most of ASEAN needs more trade and economy now, not more wars. A war in the SCS could effectively strangle maritime trade for ASEAN.

But the PH is also a threat to ASEAN. I recalled the Lahad Datu skirmish back in 2013. The PH under Aquino III staged an invasion of Lahad Datu, Sabah using 235 Sulu militants as proxies. But they had all came from Southern PH, so it was a de-facto Filipino invasion. That was a joke of an invasion force, but it was surprisingly successful. It caught the Malaysian armed forces and police napping. Those PH militants captured a village in Lahad Datu, Sabah and raided the surrounding areas. The Malaysian response was a fiasco, but they finally won the fight after bringing in their professional soldiers, and the airforce. It was a 1 month plus conflict. Official figures put around 80+ killed in the conflict. But I suspect that the real figure is over 100 deaths, probably closer to 200, because civilians deaths were intentionally not counted properly by the Malaysian government to cover up their incompetence.

I consider the Lahad Datu skirmish an attempted invasion, because the entire PH was all over the place regarding what happened. Aquino III condemned the Sulu militants for acting rashly, but offered little cooperation with Malaysia. Various Filipino government officials were agreeing or denying that the Sulu militants were terrorists. The PH government didn't even attempt to arrest the Sulu leadership in Southern PH. The Filipino public OTOH was very supportive of the Sulu militants. Filipino netizens were busy hacking Malaysian websites and trolling. They had also protested in front of the Malaysian Embassy in the PH. Recently, the PH had even attempted to launch an arbitration of Sabah with American lawyers, so their intentions are very clear to me. I think that this Sabah dispute is gonna flare up again some day.

Regarding the rightful claim of Sabah, its just a messy affair that I won't make any conclusions from. Both the PH and Malaysia have their own versions of claims, but both are also artificial nations created by colonial powers. Filipinos claim that they inherited Sabah from the Sulu Sultanate, but that Sulu Sultanate had been defunct since the early 20th century. Malaysia claims Sabah because Sabah had "opted" to join Malaysia after the British granted independence to both. I had chatted with a few of the local indigenous Sabah people, and they actually prefer to be independent of both. They felt that they were cheated by the union deal with Malaysia, and the Filipinos are invaders who would do no better. Sadly for Sabah, if it does want to declare independence, both Malaysia and the PH would attempt to invade it, and it doesn't have the military force to stop either.

The PH is currently the loose cannon of ASEAN, but severely lacking the ability to realize its territorial ambitions. The PH practices its most aggressive foreign policy under both Aquino III and Marcos Jr, both of whom are American puppets. Aquino III is particularly bloody, with the Lahad Datu skirmish, the deadly shooting of a Taiwanese fisherman, and the deadly shooting of other SEA fishermen. I also blame him for the 2010 Manilla hostage massacre, because his government showed little regard and regret for the lives lost of Chinese HK tourists. Marcos Jr has yet to match the bloodshed of Aquino III, but with the way he is pushing the SCS disputes, he might actually provoke something worse.
 
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ansy1968

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Sinophobia is now actively being promoted both in Philippine mainstream media and social media. @ansy1968 how are the Chinese-Filpinos being affected by this recent instigation of hatred? Its pretty obvious this initiative is not the creation of the Philippine government but by its NATO sponsors.

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Bro thanks for your concern BUT we are very crucial in the economic activity of the country and well embedded so we will be okay and how can you distinguished a Hua Qiao to a Chinese mestizo? Most politician like the newly installed Senate President Chiz Escudero is a Mestizo Chinese aside from his pretty English, he looks the part and he is one of many, even Marcos. What they're targeting are those newly arrived immigrants who can't speak proper Tagalog nor English BUT again with the economic situation we're experiencing they will be used for extortion and usually you don't kill the goose that laid the golden egg, so its all for show.
 
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