China's SCS Strategy Thread

Inque

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Intercepting military personnel and equipment is more or less fair game, but the line should be drawn at civilians.
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should never be attacked. Not only for humanitarian reasons but to avoid raising the already high tensions between China and Vietnam. China doesn't benefit from behaving aggressively like this.
 

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Intercepting military personnel and equipment is more or less fair game, but the line should be drawn at civilians.
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should never be attacked. Not only for humanitarian reasons but to avoid raising the already high tensions between China and Vietnam. China doesn't benefit from behaving aggressively like this.
Agree BUT who initiated it first? Is spraying water cannon considered an extreme act preferable than shooting real bullets?

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May 10, 2013 — According to local media reports, after killing the fisherman, the Filipino military ship continued to chase and fire in bursts at the Taiwanese ...

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So suddenly the US is in quite a hurry to set up forward bases facing Taiwan in preparation for the upcoming Chinese liberation campaign.

The port infrastructures are planned to be built on Basco island, approximately 175 km from Hengchun, Taiwan.

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Meanwhile, the Governor of Cagayan province (another northern province facing Taiwan) who opposed US plans to station troops and set up bases in his province is now under intense political harassment.

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Recall that this governor is a staunch critic of American presence in northern Philippines. In a documentary by CNA below, he pointed out the obvious that the US never had any meaningful economic contribution to his province while China is by far the largest market for most of the region's agricultural products. So why create unnecessary tension with your biggest economic partner by allowing US forces in the area?

I've been to Batanes, to tell you honestly it will be stupid for the American to set up a military installation in that province, the reason its too small and logistically very hard and expensive to supply. Those missile launchers are sitting ducks cause you can't move it around, the island is hilly and prone to extreme weather as Typhoon usually criss-cross the area.
 

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Agree BUT who initiated it first? Is spraying water cannon considered an extreme act preferable than shooting real bullets?

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May 10, 2013 — According to local media reports, after killing the fisherman, the Filipino military ship continued to chase and fire in bursts at the Taiwanese ...

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How can fishermen in a fishing boat "initiate" anything with a coast guard vessel?

The Philippines was clearly in the wrong. If fisherman are illegally fishing in your territorial waters, you board and arrest them. You don’t shoot at them with either bullets or a water cannon.
 
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ansy1968

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How can fishermen in a fishing boat "initiate" anything with a coast guard vessel?

The Philippines was clearly in the wrong. If fisherman are illegally fishing in your territorial waters, you board and arrest them. You don’t shoot at them with either bullets or a water cannon.
That's what I'm trying to say bro, its a contested area and China is more humane by using water cannon not on fisherman BUT on fishing vessel rather than real bullets.

See the big difference.
 

Inque

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That's what I'm trying to say bro, its a contested area and China is more humane by using water cannon not on fisherman BUT on fishing vessel rather than real bullets.

See the big difference.
"More humane" isn't the point, and the water cannon still resulted in injuries. This is essentially whatboutism. No one should be firing at unarmed civilians using anything.
 
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