Bro, bravo and well summed up, and they are still having the servant to master mentality ingrained in their DNA
China's SCS Strategy Thread
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Same goes for many Vietnamese and South Koreans, to-be-honest.
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There is no loyalty in this game; those countries that ultimately acquiesced to American demands were not being loyal or there would never have been the commotion at all. America simply uses a corruption + dollar dominance formula to coerce its victims which means that only a very few countries have the muscle and spine to tell America "No, and you can't change my mind." Everyone else would get crushed if America escalated its sanctions and for a country that is economically, technologically and militarily irrelevent like the Philipines, not much escalation is needed at all before it's way more than they can handle. If anything, America is struggling more and more, publically even, to get its vassals on board and that is due to a combination of the rise in China's counterweight and the desperation against this new China that has made American demands increasingly invasive and difficult to accept.
Huh. So now Derek Grossman is afraid that China could do the same to US spyplanes in the SCS.
Though, I'm very curious as to the claim of US military aircraft having flown into undisputed mainland China's airspace in recent years? When did those happen, and how often?
Though, I'm very curious as to the claim of US military aircraft having flown into undisputed mainland China's airspace in recent years? When did those happen, and how often?
Now they realize.
Any further planes would make a fine addition to our collection:
It probably happens all the time that they go into the ADIZ and then get escorted out.
Would China really start shooting them down over the fact that US shot down an unmanned, clearly meant for 1 way trip balloon?
Maybe they would shoot down an unmanned platform, but chances are they would do so before the balloon as well. And after even Iran not only downed but actually hacked an American recon drone to make it land in 1 piece, Americans probably have too much ptsd and are smart enough not to fly unmanned platforms towards China.
The stance of the SEA nations are natural due to geography alone, no amount of money or security guarantee from China is going to reassure them against a up and coming super power right next door, no amount of concession will please them as long as China as a state exists.
It is only logical that they would seek a outside power to counterbalance Chinese influence, especially in the case of Phillipenes where the local culture is already ingrained with Western culture due to colonialism.
It is only logical that they would seek a outside power to counterbalance Chinese influence, especially in the case of Phillipenes where the local culture is already ingrained with Western culture due to colonialism.
True. Being reasonable will get China nowhere, it will have to beat respect into them.
Why doesn't Mexico seek a "counterbalance" to US influence? Because the US beat that idea out of their heads. The same story will have to be repeated in SEA.
Getting taught a Texas sized lesson tends to force you to reconsider angering your northern neighbour. Furthermore, the US has allowed the drug trade to flourish which has destabilized a large part of its southern neighbours, forcing them to be reliant on the US for economy and security.
The Chinese could emulate their tactics here and forment dissent between ethnic/cultural lines in SEA, which is already a bit of a powder keg, this would leave them too distracted to have a united front against China. This would be a realpolitic solution but most likely would lead to harm towards the Chinese dispora and is against long term Chinese economic goals.
By now it is clear that showdown against US expansion is needed, only the question is where.
The most obvious and bombastic choice would be to draw US into invading Taiwan, crush their invasion forces and create an opening that lets the PLA remove vast swathes of Asia from America control.
But more conservative choices would point towards Iran, Ukraine or even Israel or the Baltics. Then, China would attempt to create an another Afghanistan situation for America using other states as proxies, draining them to the point of collapse. That would not ensure a smooth "handover" of US Asian colonies to China, but it also risks much much less lives.
To advance these goals, China's focus should be on Vietnam, Myanmar and Cambodia. They're the salvageable parts of ASEAN, and as long as China has its infiltration inside ASEAN, the organization will be unable to actually go against China due to deadlock.
Wooing countries that are deeply entrenched with fascism, such as Singapore, Indonesia and Philippines (in particular the first 2) will not work unless China devotes very heavy effort on them, but given the global situation, the effort is better spent ensuring that neutrals stay on China's side as well as building up new directions such as Russia or Iran.