I am dead sure these buildings are bugged by US and use as an outpost to collect intellegence; especially the activities of China in Cambodia.
China's SCS Strategy Thread
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how dare Malaysia doesn't respect the Freedoms of the Air and FON rules laid down by the US !
just joking,
antiterror13
Brigadier
Almost certainly and China found them and presented to Hunsen
escobar
Brigadier
Wonder what is in Lianyun...
Chiang was corrupted to the core. The Chinese peasants suffered under KMT and were dispicably poor and they wanted something to feed their starving families. No chance under Chiang! The only salvation was from Mao Zedong. Mao had the confidence of the masses and the poor supported him, he did delivered a better and equitable life for them and declared that China has stood up on 1 October 1949. Monkey Chiang and his gang fled to Taiwan under the protection of the yanks!
plawolf
Lieutenant General
I’m calling it now, won’t be long before we get a headline about ‘America concerned about Chinese presence in China!’
It's not a issue of morals or core principle, but of the system.
Would Chiang like to manage a unified national system devoid of corruption? Probably.
But the KMT political machine represent the landed gentry class and business elites, and so it had to be "corrupt". Actually corruption is probably not the right word for it, in the modern sense. What we call corruption today is simply how shit was done back in the day. KMT simply carried the system forward. What Mao did was reshuffle the deck.
Until the anti-corruption campaign really got under way under Xi, CCP was largely muddle down the same path. As I mentioned before, the path to a graft free system is not with elections, but with trip-quadruple redundant block chain system bound to a surveillance system and digital currency. In short, technology is the key to watching people. Merciless and emotionless technology, with no kids and family.
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From my brother @horse , bro you should posted it here, My thinking and yours is a COC will be finished at the end of the year. that will led a fustrated MR Kurt Campbell furious at Xi for being a tyrant, Duterte for being a collaborator, Vietnam for being a truant and Malaysia for being a patsy...lol
From Cyber horse (Chinese military forum)
China, ASEAN to explore elevating ties to comprehensive strategic partnership
By Zhang Hui
Published: Jun 08, 2021 09:23 PM
China and member countries of ASEAN have expanded and deepened their mutual interests by properly managing differences over the past 30 years, creating the most successful example of cooperation in the Asia-Pacific region with many groundbreaking projects that demonstrate the mutual desire to maintain regional peace and stability while resolutely objecting to West's interference and provocation, Chinese observers said after the first in-person meeting of foreign ministers between China and ASEAN since the pandemic began.
Analysts stressed that China and ASEAN members have strengthened their relations due to a natural and strong motivation and the forward momentum of cooperation and maintaining regional stability. The US' evil intention of besieging China using ASEAN members is just a pipedream and its "knife of geopolitics" can never cut the ties between China and regional bloc.
Chinese State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi on Monday and Tuesday met with foreign ministers of ASEAN countries in Southwest China's Chongqing for a Special ASEAN-China Foreign Ministers' Meeting in Celebration of the 30th Anniversary of Dialogue Relations.
In his speech, Wang spoke highly of the cooperation between the two sides over the past 30 years, saying the two sides always give top priority to each other in foreign relations, also making suggestions for the future development of China-ASEAN relations.
The two sides may explore ways to elevate China-ASEAN relations to a comprehensive strategic partnership, demonstrating the will and determination of unity and cooperation and setting a new benchmark for China-ASEAN cooperation, Wang said.
The two sides may also explore the establishment of an expert group to strengthen cooperation in vaccine research and development, production, procurement, inoculation and supervision, and work to build a regional center for vaccine production and distribution, to make vaccines more affordable and accessible in the region, Wang said.
Xu Liping, director of the Center for Southeast Asian Studies at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, told the Global Times on Tuesday that China-ASEAN relations are the most successful and dynamic partnership in the Asia-Pacific region and have created many multi-dimensional cooperation mechanisms.
China and ASEAN members will promote reopening borders and resuming tourism based on mutual recognition of health codes and vaccination, and these measures will be a demonstration of people-to-people exchanges in the post-COVID-19 era, Xu said.
China is willing to further elevate bilateral relations to a comprehensive strategic partnership, indicating the two sides will expand and deepen comprehensive cooperation in the next 30 years, Xu said, noting that the direction of future development lies in the digital economy, 5G, poverty alleviation, environmental protection and climate change, as well as reconstructing supply chains under the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP). Overtaking the EU, ASEAN jumped to become China's top trading partner in 2020.
ASEAN countries highly value China-ASEAN cooperation. According to the Straits Times, Singaporean Foreign Minister Vivian Balakrishnan said on Monday that the ministers highlighted the "very effective" cooperation between ASEAN countries and China in battling COVID-19, pointing to China's provision of essential medical supplies and support for vaccination across the region.
China-US competition?
China and ASEAN countries also held a senior officials' meeting on the implementation of the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea (DOC) in Chongqing, agreeing to resume as soon as possible the second reading of the Single Draft Code of Conduct in the South China Sea (COC) Negotiating Text and working for the early conclusion of negotiations.
When meeting with Philippine Foreign Secretary Teodoro Locsin, Wang said China has never attached any political conditions to aiding the Philippines, nor does it have any so-called "trap."
Saying that some differences between the two sides exist over the South China Sea issue, Locsin noted they should not affect the rising bilateral friendship and practical cooperation in various fields.
Xu said that the South China Sea is not the Caribbean Sea and should have nothing to do with extraterritorial countries. Further accelerating the negotiations on the issue showed the political determination of both sides in safeguarding the stability of the region.
"The South China Sea issue is only a difference between China and very few ASEAN countries, and attempting to make the issue a powder keg for the whole region is doomed to fail, as ASEAN countries are deeply aware that they will not achieve development without peace and stability in the South China Sea region," Xu said.
Some Western media outlets claimed that China is hosting ASEAN ministers in order to compete with the US. The AP said in a report on Monday that China is hosting the foreign ministers of Southeast Asian countries amid heightened competition between Beijing and Washington for "influence of the region."
Xu said such claims were made purely out of ulterior motives and seriously underestimated the thousands of years of historical and cultural connections between China and Southeast Asian countries.
Fan Hongwei, director of the Center for Southeast Asia Studies at Xiamen University, told the Global Times on Tuesday that it is the US, which out of a cold war mentality, has been interpreting China's every move as a challenge and threat to its global leadership and thus attempted to use China's neighbors, including ASEAN countries, to besiege China.
Chinese analysts said that the US' strategic intention of forcing ASEAN countries to take sides between China and the US runs counter to the fundamental interests of ASEAN countries which have been seeking a balance between major powers.
What the US wants is never practical cooperation with ASEAN, but to impede cooperation between China and ASEAN to serve its strategic purpose of containing China, analysts said.
Xu said that ASEAN countries are fully aware of this and the US' goal will never work out in the region.
Opposing unilateral sanctions on Myanmar issue
On the Myanmar issue, Wang said that China is willing to continue to work with ASEAN countries to jointly urge all parties in Myanmar to put the interests of the people first, exercise calm and restraint and eliminate all kinds of violence, encourage all parties in Myanmar to engage in political dialogue within the constitutional and legal framework, restart democratic transformation and jointly urge all countries to abide by the principles of the UN Charter and avoid unilateral sanctions and undue involvement.
Fan said that China has maintained a good relationship with both Myanmar military and the National League for Democracy, and as one of the permanent members of the UN Security Council, China plays an important role in maintaining world and regional peace and stability.
The special foreign ministers' meeting in Chongqing is a platform China offered for regional countries to discuss and mediate the Myanmar issue, Fan said, noting that China will continue to provide space for all parties in Myanmar to solve the issue through peaceful means.
Non-interference in internal affairs is the mainstream practice in Asia, and China and ASEAN countries jointly oppose unilateral sanctions. Western sanctions, out of ideology, will not do any good for the easing of the Myanmar situation, Fan said.
Just two days before the Chongqing meeting, Myanmar leader Min Aung Hlaing met with Chinese Ambassador to Myanmar Chen Hai in Nay Pyi Taw. Min Aung Hlaing said that the Myanmar side is willing to work with ASEAN to safeguard the domestic stability of Myanmar and implement the relevant consensus. Myanmar sees China as an important neighbor and is willing to maintain communications with China. In turn, Chen said China is willing to continue to play a constructive role, supporting the implementation of the consensus reached between ASEAN and Myanmar.
From Cyber horse (Chinese military forum)
China, ASEAN to explore elevating ties to comprehensive strategic partnership
By Zhang Hui
Published: Jun 08, 2021 09:23 PM
China and member countries of ASEAN have expanded and deepened their mutual interests by properly managing differences over the past 30 years, creating the most successful example of cooperation in the Asia-Pacific region with many groundbreaking projects that demonstrate the mutual desire to maintain regional peace and stability while resolutely objecting to West's interference and provocation, Chinese observers said after the first in-person meeting of foreign ministers between China and ASEAN since the pandemic began.
Analysts stressed that China and ASEAN members have strengthened their relations due to a natural and strong motivation and the forward momentum of cooperation and maintaining regional stability. The US' evil intention of besieging China using ASEAN members is just a pipedream and its "knife of geopolitics" can never cut the ties between China and regional bloc.
Chinese State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi on Monday and Tuesday met with foreign ministers of ASEAN countries in Southwest China's Chongqing for a Special ASEAN-China Foreign Ministers' Meeting in Celebration of the 30th Anniversary of Dialogue Relations.
In his speech, Wang spoke highly of the cooperation between the two sides over the past 30 years, saying the two sides always give top priority to each other in foreign relations, also making suggestions for the future development of China-ASEAN relations.
The two sides may explore ways to elevate China-ASEAN relations to a comprehensive strategic partnership, demonstrating the will and determination of unity and cooperation and setting a new benchmark for China-ASEAN cooperation, Wang said.
The two sides may also explore the establishment of an expert group to strengthen cooperation in vaccine research and development, production, procurement, inoculation and supervision, and work to build a regional center for vaccine production and distribution, to make vaccines more affordable and accessible in the region, Wang said.
Xu Liping, director of the Center for Southeast Asian Studies at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, told the Global Times on Tuesday that China-ASEAN relations are the most successful and dynamic partnership in the Asia-Pacific region and have created many multi-dimensional cooperation mechanisms.
China and ASEAN members will promote reopening borders and resuming tourism based on mutual recognition of health codes and vaccination, and these measures will be a demonstration of people-to-people exchanges in the post-COVID-19 era, Xu said.
China is willing to further elevate bilateral relations to a comprehensive strategic partnership, indicating the two sides will expand and deepen comprehensive cooperation in the next 30 years, Xu said, noting that the direction of future development lies in the digital economy, 5G, poverty alleviation, environmental protection and climate change, as well as reconstructing supply chains under the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP). Overtaking the EU, ASEAN jumped to become China's top trading partner in 2020.
ASEAN countries highly value China-ASEAN cooperation. According to the Straits Times, Singaporean Foreign Minister Vivian Balakrishnan said on Monday that the ministers highlighted the "very effective" cooperation between ASEAN countries and China in battling COVID-19, pointing to China's provision of essential medical supplies and support for vaccination across the region.
China-US competition?
China and ASEAN countries also held a senior officials' meeting on the implementation of the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea (DOC) in Chongqing, agreeing to resume as soon as possible the second reading of the Single Draft Code of Conduct in the South China Sea (COC) Negotiating Text and working for the early conclusion of negotiations.
When meeting with Philippine Foreign Secretary Teodoro Locsin, Wang said China has never attached any political conditions to aiding the Philippines, nor does it have any so-called "trap."
Saying that some differences between the two sides exist over the South China Sea issue, Locsin noted they should not affect the rising bilateral friendship and practical cooperation in various fields.
Xu said that the South China Sea is not the Caribbean Sea and should have nothing to do with extraterritorial countries. Further accelerating the negotiations on the issue showed the political determination of both sides in safeguarding the stability of the region.
"The South China Sea issue is only a difference between China and very few ASEAN countries, and attempting to make the issue a powder keg for the whole region is doomed to fail, as ASEAN countries are deeply aware that they will not achieve development without peace and stability in the South China Sea region," Xu said.
Some Western media outlets claimed that China is hosting ASEAN ministers in order to compete with the US. The AP said in a report on Monday that China is hosting the foreign ministers of Southeast Asian countries amid heightened competition between Beijing and Washington for "influence of the region."
Xu said such claims were made purely out of ulterior motives and seriously underestimated the thousands of years of historical and cultural connections between China and Southeast Asian countries.
Fan Hongwei, director of the Center for Southeast Asia Studies at Xiamen University, told the Global Times on Tuesday that it is the US, which out of a cold war mentality, has been interpreting China's every move as a challenge and threat to its global leadership and thus attempted to use China's neighbors, including ASEAN countries, to besiege China.
Chinese analysts said that the US' strategic intention of forcing ASEAN countries to take sides between China and the US runs counter to the fundamental interests of ASEAN countries which have been seeking a balance between major powers.
What the US wants is never practical cooperation with ASEAN, but to impede cooperation between China and ASEAN to serve its strategic purpose of containing China, analysts said.
Xu said that ASEAN countries are fully aware of this and the US' goal will never work out in the region.
Opposing unilateral sanctions on Myanmar issue
On the Myanmar issue, Wang said that China is willing to continue to work with ASEAN countries to jointly urge all parties in Myanmar to put the interests of the people first, exercise calm and restraint and eliminate all kinds of violence, encourage all parties in Myanmar to engage in political dialogue within the constitutional and legal framework, restart democratic transformation and jointly urge all countries to abide by the principles of the UN Charter and avoid unilateral sanctions and undue involvement.
Fan said that China has maintained a good relationship with both Myanmar military and the National League for Democracy, and as one of the permanent members of the UN Security Council, China plays an important role in maintaining world and regional peace and stability.
The special foreign ministers' meeting in Chongqing is a platform China offered for regional countries to discuss and mediate the Myanmar issue, Fan said, noting that China will continue to provide space for all parties in Myanmar to solve the issue through peaceful means.
Non-interference in internal affairs is the mainstream practice in Asia, and China and ASEAN countries jointly oppose unilateral sanctions. Western sanctions, out of ideology, will not do any good for the easing of the Myanmar situation, Fan said.
Just two days before the Chongqing meeting, Myanmar leader Min Aung Hlaing met with Chinese Ambassador to Myanmar Chen Hai in Nay Pyi Taw. Min Aung Hlaing said that the Myanmar side is willing to work with ASEAN to safeguard the domestic stability of Myanmar and implement the relevant consensus. Myanmar sees China as an important neighbor and is willing to maintain communications with China. In turn, Chen said China is willing to continue to play a constructive role, supporting the implementation of the consensus reached between ASEAN and Myanmar.
@Bellum_Romanum Bro Duterte on the offensive, having thwart the Opposition party on his China pivot and his independent foreign policy, he now demanded the US to explain its covert role in losing the Panatag reef/ shoal or else goodbye VFA. He now put the limelight on the US cause he knows that this past political noises America had a hand and partly funded those activity. Its a deft move, the opposition is foundering like a headless chicken, with the fabricated Chinese militia boat incident didn't gain any traction, instead with JPE interview, it only highlighted the past administration mishandling with American culpability. And bro Abner Afuang is nowhere to be seen...lol from rumors he contracted covid and is now in gov't hospital seeking treatment. I guess he is regretting his action now...lol
MANILA TIMES
June 11, 2021
PRESIDENT Rodrigo Duterte
MALACAÑANG on Thursday said President Rodrigo Duterte wants Washington to explain the circumstances behind the 2012 Panatag Shoal standoff before deciding on the fate of the Visiting Forces Agreement (VFA).
In a television interview on Tuesday, Duterte questioned the US government, which brokered the back channel talks that prompted the Philippine government to pull out its ships from the Panatag Shoal why it did not force China to withdraw its ships during the standoff.
"The VFA now is the problem. We have a big problem because America served as the broker and we withdrew. Why did they not force China to withdraw also? Unless they can explain it to me in a very simple way that can be understood by the entire Philippines, then I can begin to talk about their foreign forces," Duterte said.
"Pero 'pag hindi, medyo malabo. Sobra tayong binabastos ng Amerikano talaga (If not, then it's unlikely. It's really unlikely. The Americans disrespected us too much)," he said.
Asked to clarify Duterte's statements, Palace spokesman Harry Roque Jr. said the President wants a "satisfactory explanation" as to why the United States let the Philippines lose the territory to China.
"He was clear - kung makakapagbigay ng eksplanasyon ang Estados Unidos kung bakit Pilipinas lang ang pinaalis nila sa Scarborough at hindi nila inantay na umalis ang Tsina, eh siguro po may pag-asa ang VFA (He was clear - if the US can give an explanation as to why it compelled only the Philippines to leave the Scarborough and why it did not wait for China to leave, maybe VFA has a chance)," Roque said.
"Pero kung walang satisfactory na eksplanasyon, sabi ng Presidente, malabo malabo (But if there is no satisfactory explanation, the President said, it is unlikely)," he added.
Roque earlier said the Chief Executive has yet to decide on the fate of the VFA.
In February 2020, Duterte ordered the termination of VFA after the US government cancelled the visa of Sen. Ronald "Bato" de la Rosa over alleged human rights abuses due to the war on drugs when he was the director general of the Philippine National Police.
The President, however, twice suspended the termination.
The termination of the VFA, should it push through, will take effect in August.
Duterte earlier threatened to continue with the abrogation of VFA if the United States will not supply coronavirus disease 2019 vaccines (Covid-19) to the Philippines.
He also demanded the United States to pay if they want the VFA to continue.
Duterte to US: Explain Panatag standoff
MANILA TIMES
June 11, 2021
PRESIDENT Rodrigo Duterte
MALACAÑANG on Thursday said President Rodrigo Duterte wants Washington to explain the circumstances behind the 2012 Panatag Shoal standoff before deciding on the fate of the Visiting Forces Agreement (VFA).
In a television interview on Tuesday, Duterte questioned the US government, which brokered the back channel talks that prompted the Philippine government to pull out its ships from the Panatag Shoal why it did not force China to withdraw its ships during the standoff.
"The VFA now is the problem. We have a big problem because America served as the broker and we withdrew. Why did they not force China to withdraw also? Unless they can explain it to me in a very simple way that can be understood by the entire Philippines, then I can begin to talk about their foreign forces," Duterte said.
"Pero 'pag hindi, medyo malabo. Sobra tayong binabastos ng Amerikano talaga (If not, then it's unlikely. It's really unlikely. The Americans disrespected us too much)," he said.
Asked to clarify Duterte's statements, Palace spokesman Harry Roque Jr. said the President wants a "satisfactory explanation" as to why the United States let the Philippines lose the territory to China.
"He was clear - kung makakapagbigay ng eksplanasyon ang Estados Unidos kung bakit Pilipinas lang ang pinaalis nila sa Scarborough at hindi nila inantay na umalis ang Tsina, eh siguro po may pag-asa ang VFA (He was clear - if the US can give an explanation as to why it compelled only the Philippines to leave the Scarborough and why it did not wait for China to leave, maybe VFA has a chance)," Roque said.
"Pero kung walang satisfactory na eksplanasyon, sabi ng Presidente, malabo malabo (But if there is no satisfactory explanation, the President said, it is unlikely)," he added.
Roque earlier said the Chief Executive has yet to decide on the fate of the VFA.
In February 2020, Duterte ordered the termination of VFA after the US government cancelled the visa of Sen. Ronald "Bato" de la Rosa over alleged human rights abuses due to the war on drugs when he was the director general of the Philippine National Police.
The President, however, twice suspended the termination.
The termination of the VFA, should it push through, will take effect in August.
Duterte earlier threatened to continue with the abrogation of VFA if the United States will not supply coronavirus disease 2019 vaccines (Covid-19) to the Philippines.
He also demanded the United States to pay if they want the VFA to continue.
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