China's SCS Strategy Thread

[Sardaukar20]

I remember i read somewhere that China was building an "underwater great wall" to have a better monitoring undersea. Does anyone have any updates regarding this project?

I've read that too from Wikipedia. And from some other articles. Typically from the anti-China media, trying to portray China as the 'big bad' in the SCS. I feel that this should be true, because its a necessity for China. Thanks to all the USN assets moving around there. I can be damn sure the US is doing the same in the SCS, but we will never hear that as 'evil'.

Maybe somewhere in this thread someone might have posted something about it in the past. Might wanna go back and check.

 

[escobar]

Good thread into US INDOPACOM changing mil strategy : large numbers of long-range missile forces, mobile strike systems, mobile rocket artillery, dispersed forces, mobile anti-ship missiles strike teams, more surveillance and reconnaissance capabilities etc..

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1371309892842237960

 

[Oldschool]

There is an US paper came out describing how to take China SCS manmade island.

First, drone attack, second, paralysed communication, third, antship missiles to deter China ship reinforcement and fourth , landing!

Well, how about trade SCS manmade island with Taiwan?


US take China's manmade island and China take Taiwan.

I think it's fair.

 

[Hendrik_2000]

PLAN is well aware. For example it's currently flying Y-8Q to South West corner of Taiwan inside the ADIZ almost daily to keep an watch out for subs.

Yup the Chinese ASW improve quite a lot over the year I have dedicated ASW warfare in this forum go check it out. New promising technology making progress like laser detection with miniaturization of laser to be carried by satellite. Array of mad, stealth sensor like Haiying etc. Commission of highs frequency sonar ships, Underwater great wall should be completed by now tens of KQ200 operating and training honing their skill , close to hundred Type 56

 

[Hendrik_2000]

Good thread into US INDOPACOM changing mil strategy : large numbers of long-range missile forces, mobile strike systems, mobile rocket artillery, dispersed forces, mobile anti-ship missiles strike teams, more surveillance and reconnaissance capabilities etc..

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1371309892842237960

It does not change the fact that US face a long and vulnerable logistic line and all those forward base are in the hairline of Chinese precision strike. None of their forward bases are hardened go check it out jet park outside in Naha Okinawa

 

[Andy1974]

There is an US paper came out describing how to take China SCS manmade island.

First, drone attack, second, paralysed communication, third, antship missiles to deter China ship reinforcement and fourth , landing!

Well, how about trade SCS manmade island with Taiwan?


US take China's manmade island and China take Taiwan.

I think it's fair.

I have always thought this is China’s SCS strategy, the islands are a card on the table to be traded, along with the 9-dash line.

 

[Hendrik_2000]

I have always thought this is China’s SCS strategy, the islands are a card on the table to be traded, along with the 9-dash line.

I don't think so China is steadfast when it come to territory The Prez himself said they won't retreat an inch on the question of sovereignty

 

[plawolf]

I have always thought this is China’s SCS strategy, the islands are a card on the table to be traded, along with the 9-dash line.

Nope.

Firstly, Taiwan is and never have been America’s to trade. America cannot compel Taiwan to reunify with China.

Secondly, the SCS islands are if anything, even more off limits than Taiwan.

The only place on earth where anyone could realistically mount a sea based blockade of China is in the SCS. Anywhere else and it will either be suicide if it’s too close to the Chinese mainland (Taiwan and rest of 1st island chain) or would be totally impossible to administer without killing off global trade as a consequence.

That was why Obama and Hillary went sniffing around the SCS, and why China responded so forcefully.

To give those SCS islands to America would be to hand over a trump card far more devastating than even Taiwan. For absolutely no reason or gain. It would be moronic of the highest order.

 

[Sardaukar20]

Nope.

Firstly, Taiwan is and never have been America’s to trade. America cannot compel Taiwan to reunify with China.

Secondly, the SCS islands are if anything, even more off limits than Taiwan.

The only place on earth where anyone could realistically mount a sea based blockade of China is in the SCS. Anywhere else and it will either be suicide if it’s too close to the Chinese mainland (Taiwan and rest of 1st island chain) or would be totally impossible to administer without killing off global trade as a consequence.

That was why Obama and Hillary went sniffing around the SCS, and why China responded so forcefully.

To give those SCS islands to America would be to hand over a trump card far more devastating than even Taiwan. For absolutely no reason or gain. It would be moronic of the highest order.

Exactly, it has been America's wet dream to control the SCS. Many good things could be gained. One, it'll make it so much more convenient for the US to blockade a massive portion of China's maritime shipping activities. Imagine having US military bases on those islands instead of the Chinese ones. It'll make the USN logistics in the SCS so much easier than it already is. Furthermore, it'll definitely empower other US-friendly SCS claimants to take advantage of China's relative absence from the SCS. They and the US would happily question and violate China's sovereignty in the SCS. Finally, it would just make any naval invasion of China easier too.

The US already has a powerful naval presence in the SCS. Why make things easier for the US? Especially when China already knows the true intentions of the US in the SCS. Taiwan is Chinese territory, it is not up for trade or bargaining. It'll be like asking the US to concede Guam for keeping Hawaii. That is why China is rapidly building up its naval power to match the US, to ensure that no more Chinese territory is up for negotiations anymore.

 

[Andy1974]

Nope.

Firstly, Taiwan is and never have been America’s to trade. America cannot compel Taiwan to reunify with China.

Secondly, the SCS islands are if anything, even more off limits than Taiwan.

The only place on earth where anyone could realistically mount a sea based blockade of China is in the SCS. Anywhere else and it will either be suicide if it’s too close to the Chinese mainland (Taiwan and rest of 1st island chain) or would be totally impossible to administer without killing off global trade as a consequence.

That was why Obama and Hillary went sniffing around the SCS, and why China responded so forcefully.

To give those SCS islands to America would be to hand over a trump card far more devastating than even Taiwan. For absolutely no reason or gain. It would be moronic of the highest order.

When I said “traded” I didn’t say “Give to America”. I think something like this could happen...

China invades Taiwan, then gives up its 9-dash line claim and de-militarize the SCS islands and turns them into tourist resorts.