Folks on Reddit already hyping that NATO-style organization for Southeast and East Asia countries will be founded within two years.
Please, even withing ASEAN we are still having territorial disputes between each other e.g. Ambalat, Sabah.
China's SCS Strategy Thread
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Folks on Reddit already hyping that NATO-style organization for Southeast and East Asia countries will be founded within two years.
Please, even withing ASEAN we are still having territorial disputes between each other e.g. Ambalat, Sabah.
The RCEP will isolate India further. They are so scared they cannot compete with Vietnam and Indonesia on low cost manufacturing.
Hi Gatekeeper,
In a way China occupation of Scarborough Shoal is a blessing, there is always a Chinese coast guard vessel inside the lagoon to protect it from over fishing. As I mention previously Scarborough is our traditional fishing ground before Arbitration , after the ruling it had been declare an open fishing area. the report of harassment of Filipino fisherman is grossly misrepresented,. You can fish around the lagoon but not inside, there is a calming effect between fisherman of different nationality because big brother is watching, it give a sense of order and everybody is okay doing their thing.
Maritime clashes between non-Chinese
SCS countries is not new. The West is purposefully omitting this from their own SCS narratives.
Non of the ASEAN states are as close allies to the US like Japan or Australia. The Philippines once was, but not anymore since Duterte came into power. These states spend just as much effort fighting each other than with China for a stake in the SCS. Can't form a unified anti-China front from that.
That is why the US is betting more on the other Quad members: Australia, Japan, and India. These are all major economies who happen to have mutual anti-China goals. Conviniently, they happen to have far superior navies to ASEAN.
US manipulating ASEAN is for two reasons. First is economic sabotage, to pull them away from their huge economic relationship with China. Second is to form a convinient casus beli. Any major conflict between an ASEAN state with China gives them an excuse to intervene and wage their dream war.
US would never do this to defend the 'sovereign rights' of these ASEAN states. I would bet that if the USN wins an island, the US is going to occupy it 'to keep it safe'. Then force that ASEAN state to allow only American businesses to develop those islands and beyond. This effectively enslaves that country to America's hegemony.
to derail abit from the topic, India has never been serious about getting into RCEP. India is demanding all the party nations to recognise her underqualified nursing/programming degrees and fulfill a quota to import Indian human resources(yes there is a min yearly quota, Singapores signed CECA) so that she can solve the domestic unemployment problem at the detriment of other nations. Yet on the other hand, India refuse to open up her manufacturing sectors to international competitive. Japan is at a loss because India pull out of the talk, ending any hope of counterbalancing China's growing trade influence with South East Asian.
As for India's industrialisation attempt with no competition to shape up domestic players..lol good luck
Hi Sardaukar20,
All of the ASEAN countries had been colonized except for Thailand, most of them had suffered brutality from their colonizer. So there is a sense of mistrust when dealing with the West. The exception is the Phillippine, we had a love hate relation with America, they abuse and exploited us greatly but we still loved them. An example is that when an American murder a filipino, its okay , but when a Chinese tourist argue with a police who is trying extort bribe there is an uproar of Chinese abusing behavior. There is a national flaw in our character that our colonizer exploit. The lack of Filipino Nationalism and a sense of nationhood. sorry for my rant
Indian is trying to export its huge population to other countries. Singapore now has over 50,000 cases of covid-19 mainly due to workers from India.
Is Japan going to pull out of the RCEP without the participation of India?
Impossible since that will hand China total influence over the agenda. Her own CPTPP(formerly TPP) is not looking good as Indonesia, Philippines and Malaysia are losing interest in it, since the high standard demanded will hamper their domestic manufacturing development.
Hi hullopilllw,
The writer opinion is his own, most countries prefer RCEP cause its rules are simpler and fair. Not like CPTPP(formerly TPP) which favor big corporation. THE Competition of ideas is good, countries had a choice to choose from, the friendly rivalry between China and Japan is being use to extract more economic concession between the two great economic power. Look we like Japan doesnt mean we follow every step, they proposed, we talk , we listen and we show respect as Japan is a big donor in the region.
The great progress of RCEP, emphasize the need of economic integration. With the current situation ,Two anglo/saxon nation Australia and NZ are very cooperative, They want to protect their trade relation with China and RCEP are part of that.
What you said is quite true in many colonized countries or regions. Hong Kong, and India are the worst examples of this kind of strange love for former colonial masters.
Unfortunately it is difficult to reverse decades of brainwashing by the American and Western propaganda. It is everywhere, from education, to media, and in the government. That hate for China is not going anytime soon.s.
For the Filipinos it was a very brave step forward to elect Duterte. He has put some much needed purpose into Filipino governance. Since he came into power, the Philippines have started gaining respect in Asia. Of course there would be haters. The West hates Duterte, just because he refuses to be bullied by them. It'll take time to build healthy nationalism. Now that the Philippines have started to move forward, they can start to form their national identity and pride through achievements.