Hendrik_2000
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Fiery Cross Reef in the South China Sea in the 1980's and 1990's
China's SCS Strategy Thread
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Hendrik_2000
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To Fiery Cross Reef 2016
Of course it will happen. With Trump being in power and all.
I fear that much like when WWI happened, others feared that in peace Germany would rise too much, so they jumped at the chance to make war with them. The Germans were stupid enough to get into an interlocking system of alliances which led to WWI. At that time the German Navy had considerable power. More than they had in WWII.
All that China needs to do if they go along the SCS is to broadcast their usual message and illuminate them with targeting radars while US ships cruise around. I think they will get the picture just fine.
I fear that much like when WWI happened, others feared that in peace Germany would rise too much, so they jumped at the chance to make war with them. The Germans were stupid enough to get into an interlocking system of alliances which led to WWI. At that time the German Navy had considerable power. More than they had in WWII.
All that China needs to do if they go along the SCS is to broadcast their usual message and illuminate them with targeting radars while US ships cruise around. I think they will get the picture just fine.
IMHO China should not let the US push them into a major war with them over the next decade. For this initiatives like OBOR are crucial.
If the US protests the Chinese actions in the South China Sea, the Chinese should just invoke the US's former presence in Panama to shut them up.
The US is being really stupid in starting these kinds of initiatives and not relinquishing control over the region IMHO. Contrary to a couple decades ago now the Chinese have road mobile DF-41 systems which can hit the entire CONUS. Yet they continue to treat China like it is the same China of the 1980s in terms of military power. China's conventional forces may still be inferior, even the nuclear forces in terms of numbers, but they are enough that this should give them some pause.
I think in the end we'll see a repeat of the Cold War. It's kinda laughable really. It's like that George Orwell joke in his 1984 book. Oceania, Eurasia, and Eastasia fighting each other in proxy wars in Africa. That's what I expect over the next 20 years.
If the US protests the Chinese actions in the South China Sea, the Chinese should just invoke the US's former presence in Panama to shut them up.
The US is being really stupid in starting these kinds of initiatives and not relinquishing control over the region IMHO. Contrary to a couple decades ago now the Chinese have road mobile DF-41 systems which can hit the entire CONUS. Yet they continue to treat China like it is the same China of the 1980s in terms of military power. China's conventional forces may still be inferior, even the nuclear forces in terms of numbers, but they are enough that this should give them some pause.
I think in the end we'll see a repeat of the Cold War. It's kinda laughable really. It's like that George Orwell joke in his 1984 book. Oceania, Eurasia, and Eastasia fighting each other in proxy wars in Africa. That's what I expect over the next 20 years.
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China should not be pushed into a major war at all.
A wealthy hi-tech China would have 4x the population of the USA and therefore an economy that is 4x larger.
Given time, that translates into equivalent military and economic influence.
There's no way that sort of power differential wouldn't be recognised, which would preclude a major war from ever occurring.
US has prepared to bomb and flatten all China man-made island within 1 hrs. Its already in the military planning, not just some think tank piece.
It has the largest war weapon storage and oil depot located at Japan.
During Cold war, US avoided even conventional war with Soviet afraid it.t escalate to nuclear war. US only had proxy wars with Soviet.
But now, US has direct conventional war plan against China at South China Sea and Taiwan.
That means China nuclear weapons is not of a deterrence against conventional war like the Soviet had against US. US had never entertain even an idea of conventional bombing Soviet territory.
alot of folks are against China building nuke like the scale of Soviet, calling waste of money,.
But to deter US conventional war plan, it might need to ..
China probably need large nuke weapons both tactical/strategical weapons to fend off US conventional attack mainly on its man made islands
Once China man made island got bombed, it has to attack Guam and US weapon and oil storage at japan,
But the fact that US has such plan for China but not Soviet speaks volume
It has the largest war weapon storage and oil depot located at Japan.
During Cold war, US avoided even conventional war with Soviet afraid it.t escalate to nuclear war. US only had proxy wars with Soviet.
But now, US has direct conventional war plan against China at South China Sea and Taiwan.
That means China nuclear weapons is not of a deterrence against conventional war like the Soviet had against US. US had never entertain even an idea of conventional bombing Soviet territory.
alot of folks are against China building nuke like the scale of Soviet, calling waste of money,.
But to deter US conventional war plan, it might need to ..
China probably need large nuke weapons both tactical/strategical weapons to fend off US conventional attack mainly on its man made islands
Once China man made island got bombed, it has to attack Guam and US weapon and oil storage at japan,
But the fact that US has such plan for China but not Soviet speaks volume
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How do you know the US has conventional war plan against China and not Soviet Union? I'm sure they have/had plans for both. Conventional and nuclear. It would be impossible for them not to have planned against Soviet Union knowing that threat of conventional and nuclear war was real.
I got it from news of various sources.
Chinese TV program talked About it.
There were all proxies wars with the Soviet.
Right now, US directly involved in South China Sea, it doesn't hide behind the proxy and their mentality is different so I figure the the cases are different.