China's SCS Strategy Thread

Hendrik_2000

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You think you see the end of island building but wait China plan to to expand it 5X wow via Adam Wang
Yongshu Island, China : Existing area 2.8 km2, will reach 108 km2 in next 20 years
2018-09-03 22:00:56
For a long time, some scattered islands and reefs in the South China Sea have been in short supply due to their poor living environment on the island, which has caused some of the island reefs to lose their opportunities and stolen in the past few decades, by Vietnam (29 stolen), and the Philippines (8 stolen) and other countries . Later, with the development of strength, we began to realize this problem. China want to control the islands and reefs of distant continents. It is the best choice to build a transit station that can stay for a long time.

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In recent years, the most proud of our project to reclaim the islands of the South China Sea is to use the Yongshu Reef (now known as “Yongshu Island”). Before 4 years ago, our mouth was re-heated. The reef is only a reef disk with a surface area of only 0.2 square kilometers at the time of low tide. From August 2014 to short 4 months in 2015, China completed the sand-filling operation on the Yongshu Reef. 2.8 square kilometers, equivalent to the deck area of 109 Nimitz class aircraft carriers!

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After the completion of the sand-filling operation, in order to build it into the largest material distribution center in Nansha, a long-distance large-scale transport aircraft is needed. China has built infrastructure such as Yongshudao Airport and Yongshudao Hospital on Yongji Island, and According to recent news, fresh water was found in various places in Yongshu Island, which saved a lot of burden for our long stay. In addition, many netizens call it the "unsinkable aircraft carrier" according to the shape of Yongshu Island!

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In fact, the Yongshu Island we are currently seeing is only the tip of the iceberg of Yongchang Island. Its full name should be called “Southwest Island of Yongshu Reef”. The real reef island of Yongji Island is 26 kilometers long and 7.8 kilometers wide. The area is 108 square kilometers. In recent years, the northeast reefs of the Yongshu Reef have formed two bean sprout-shaped sandbars under the influence of the northeast blast, which has the potential to form a sand-sand island. And the entire Yongshu reef is very shallow, which is very suitable for land reclamation.

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From the current situation, it is difficult for 2.8 square kilometers of islands to meet China's future needs. According to its geographical location and China's future needs, all the large atolls in the northeast of Yongshu Reef will be sand-filled and reclaimed into a connected island. Just a matter of time!

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Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
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For such a huge project, we have the problem of “foundational madness” or just a few “Day Whale” and “Tianhao” twisting large dredgers. After all, we have the most advanced artificial island technology in the world. . According to netizens' calculations, according to the existing reef disk calculation, the “Ultimate Yongshu Island” after completion will have a land area of about 62 square kilometers, a lake area of about 6.5 square kilometers, and an inner harbor of 35.5 square kilometers to stop large ships!

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In addition, China can also use this plan with a small amount of engineering!




Of course, not every island and reef in the South China Sea needs such a large project to blow sand and reclamation. What China needs is a large fortress in the vast South China Sea. It can withstand certain attacks and has sufficient functions. Such a fortress. Just one, maybe not the Yongshu Island that the author said, but it must be built in other places!

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You think you see the end of island building but wait China plan to to expand it 5X wow via Adam Wang
Yongshu Island, China : Existing area 2.8 km2, will reach 108 km2 in next 20 years
2018-09-03 22:00:56

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wondering how credible is that source

In recent years, the most proud of our project to reclaim the islands of the South China Sea is to use the Yongshu Reef (now known as “Yongshu Island”).
some (like me LOL) heard of it under the name Fiery Cross Reef

... 2.8 square kilometers, equivalent to the deck area of 109 Nimitz class aircraft carriers!

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the author might've gotten even a higher ratio than 109 LOL

2.8/109 = 0.0257 km2 per carrier, which is 6.3 acre per carrier, but

"Having a flight deck area of 4.5 acres, ..."
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2.8 km2 would be almost 154 Nimitz' flight decks
 

tidalwave

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US said China destroyer luyang destroyer try to crash into decantaur destroyer near Spratley island recently. Within 46 yards.

Well, China has upgraded it's engagement policy into crashing into US naval ships.

Is that a 051C or 052C destroyer?

Also recently , UK naval ship went near Paracel island, for the first time, China air fighter, j11b? low flying and buzzed the UK ship.

Looks like China let the flood gate open and fully adopted Russian or Soviet style of engaging ennemy ships.
 
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US said China destroyer luyang destroyer try to crash into decantaur destroyer near Spratley island recently. Within 46 yards.

Well, China has upgraded it's engagement policy into crashing into US naval ships.

Is that a 051C or 052C destroyer?

Also recently , UK naval ship went near Paracel island, for the first time, China air fighter, j11b? low flying and buzzed the UK ship.

Looks like China let the flood gate open and fully adopted Russian or Soviet style of engaging ennemy ships.
here's the USNI News
Destroyer USS Decatur Has Close Encounter With Chinese Warship
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Arleigh Burke guided-missile destroyer USS Decatur (DDG-73) was approached Sunday morning in the South China Sea by a Chinese warship in what Navy officials are calling an unsafe and unprofessional maneuver.

At about 8:30 a.m. local time, Decatur was conducting freedom of navigation operations (FONOps) in the vicinity of Gaven Reef in the South China Sea. China’s People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) Luyang-class destroyer approached Decatur, which was operating within 12 nautical miles of the Gaven and Johnson Reefs in the Spratly Islands, Cmdr. Nathan Christensen, a U.S. Pacific Fleet spokesman, told USNI News in an email.

“The (People’s Republic of China) PRC destroyer conducted a series of increasingly aggressive maneuvers accompanied by warnings for Decatur to depart the area. The PRC destroyer approached within 45 yards of Decatur’s bow, after which Decatur maneuvered to prevent a collision,” Christensen said.

Decatur’s route passed rocks and reefs that China has turned into artificial islands in a bid to extend its South China Sea territorial claims. These islands are not recognized by international law as meeting the requirements to qualify as sovereign territory.

Decatur has previously crossed paths with Chinese destroyers in the South China Sea. Two years ago, a Luyang-class destroyer observed
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near Triton and Woody Islands in the Paracel Islands, which China calls Xisha. At the time, a
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complained Decatur violated China’s sovereignty, though Vietnam and Taiwan also claim the small sand spits.

Referring to the most recent freedom of navigation operations, Christensen said, “U.S. Forces operate in the Indo-Pacific region on a daily basis, including the South China Sea. As we have for decades, our forces will continue to fly, sail and operate anywhere international law allows. All operations are designed in accordance with international law and demonstrate that the United States will fly, sail and operate wherever international law allows. That is true in the South China Sea as in other places around the globe.”

Meanwhile, the Wasp Amphibious Ready Group (ARG) with embarked 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) is also operating in the South China Sea. The ARG/MEU recently completed a Defense of the Amphibious Task Force (DATF) drill at sea, including live firing crew-served weapons from USS Wasp (LHD-1).

“The DATF rehearsal demonstrated the full integration of Marine Corps and Navy capabilities showcasing the intensity of joint firepower available to defend Wasp, and our forces, in a wide range of combat situations,” Col. Robert Brodie, the commanding officer of the 31st MEU, said in a statement. “Our ironclad Blue-Green partnership allows us to continuously hone our lethality through training and exercises, in preparation for any operation.”

The ARG and MEU were simulating travel through potentially dangerous waters. The Wasp ARG and 31st MEU are serving as a ready-response force in the region, according to a U.S. Indo-Pacific Command statement.

“Increasing the lethality of the Navy-Marine Corps Team is the priority for us. Sailors and Marines are doing amazing work, and we are becoming more lethal every single day,” Rear Adm. Brad Cooper, commander of Amphibious Force 7th Fleet, said in a statement. “Today, we showed once again why the U.S. Navy and U.S. Marine Corps are the premier combat forces in the western Pacific, reinforcing security and stability in this critical region.”
 
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Would US do a military exercise near Taiwan Strait or near SCS island . it will be escalation

US military FONOPs and other overseas military exercises are interventionist colonial era gunboat diplomacy meant to intimidate other countries, this is more of the same. This would fit in with the US' full spectrum swing towards hostilities against China.

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China says U.S. proposes postponing diplomatic, security dialogue
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EditorLi Jiayao
Time 2018-10-04

BEIJING, Oct. 3 (Xinhua) -- China reiterated Wednesday that it is the United States that had proposed the postponement of the second round of their Diplomatic and Security Dialogue instead of the other way around.

Hua Chunying, a spokeswoman for China's Foreign Ministry, refuted recent U.S. media reports that a U.S. official claimed China had proposed putting off the dialogue.

"Such an argument completely distorts the fact with ulterior motives and is extremely irresponsible," she said. "The Chinese side expresses strong dissatisfaction."

The fact is the United States recently made a proposal to China that it hoped to postpone the dialogue, Hua said.

"We demand the parties concerned stop fabricating and spreading rumors," she said.

On Tuesday, Hua said China and the United States had previously agreed in principle to hold the dialogue in mid-October, while the United States recently proposed putting it off.
 

cn_habs

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If we look at the aerial photo released by the US navy, the Lanzhou was fully in front of the Burke class DDG. It looks more like a dangerous OP by the self-righteous Americans who have actually killed and displaced millions of foreign citizens on in all continents of the world. ;)
 

Yodello

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If we look at the aerial photo released by the US navy, the Lanzhou was fully in front of the Burke class DDG. It looks more like a dangerous OP by the self-righteous Americans who have actually killed and displaced millions of foreign citizens on in all continents of the world. ;)


I have stopped trusting anything the Americans spew out from their venomous self-righteous mouths.
 
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