China's SCS Strategy Thread
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Blackstone
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Political leadership is even more important than military might in the SCS these days. Countries with weak military but enlightened leadership could maneuver among greater powers that benefits their national interests. President Duterte of the Philippines and Sultan Bolkiah of Brunei are good examples. Both deal with US and China on relatively good terms, and they get the best deal they could realistically get in return. On the other hand, countries with much stronger military but less enlightened or flexible leadership (Japan, India, Australia) find headaches in Beijing or in Washington. Sometimes both.
I like the rest of your thoughtful post.
Another thread derailed because of a back handed but deliberate flame bait comment by a certain member...?
Why not join in on the festivities as well. You can write whatever you want
Because some people still have sane mind about what title of a forum is working for, instead hot head devoted in one of the worst, worthless topics called politicsWhy not join in on the festivities as well. You can write whatever you want
Isn't politics apart of the whole SCS issue?
Blackstone
Brigadier
Well yes, and that's why the SDF mods allow posters to talk about politics, as long as they don't talk about *politics.*
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
I was watching the TV show Madame Secretary last night and it was about the South China Sea. They had a fictitious Filipino President molded from Duterte causing trouble for the US and then he "sexually assaults" the Secretary of State to which she punches him in the face and breaks his nose. It was a fantasy how the US wishes it would be mixing Trump in him and being paid for by China. They also had the Filipino military secretly offer to the US to assassinate him for them. Something so serious that in the end the guy was still in office because of blackmail coming from all his corrupt dirty secrets they uncovered. Why not release all this information and get rid of him that way? They ironically needed a puppet themselves since the guy was popularly elected and couldn't trust Filipinos to elect a President the US liked which supported the anti-American populist reasons why they said he was elected in the first place.
Equation
Lieutenant General
Yep I saw it too. Stupid scenario and propaganda showcasing the US can never do no wrong.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Hollywood has a long and proud tradition of acting as the propaganda arm of the US, so much so they made several movies about it.
Argo, was based on actual events, while the interview was fictitious, but no one would bat an eye if something like that actually happened.
I used to like Madam Secretary, but i think Trump's win has sent them into pure denial of reality US global domination wet dream land, where they can bitchslap Russia in real shooting wars and play China like a child.
I would recommend Secret City as a far superior political drama related to the SCS, with a fairly realistic plot that masterfully plays on people's preconceptions and delivers some truly great plot twists and writing.
They couldn't help themselves from throwing in some popular western cliches and idiocies in there regarding China, and it is rolleyes worthy sometimes, but the finial twists makes it well worth suffering through those earlier annoyances.
Argo, was based on actual events, while the interview was fictitious, but no one would bat an eye if something like that actually happened.
I used to like Madam Secretary, but i think Trump's win has sent them into pure denial of reality US global domination wet dream land, where they can bitchslap Russia in real shooting wars and play China like a child.
I would recommend Secret City as a far superior political drama related to the SCS, with a fairly realistic plot that masterfully plays on people's preconceptions and delivers some truly great plot twists and writing.
They couldn't help themselves from throwing in some popular western cliches and idiocies in there regarding China, and it is rolleyes worthy sometimes, but the finial twists makes it well worth suffering through those earlier annoyances.
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
China has decide to built environmental station at Scarborough shoal. Well let see if it actually built It will create fire storm of criticism from usual court. From Henri K
To maintain its effective control of the Scarborough reef, which is strategically located in the eastern South China Sea and less than 240 km from the Philippine coast, China will no longer be satisfied with sending bombers Or AWACS on patrol.
According to an interview with the mayor of the city of Sansha - a prefecture town on Yongxing Island in the Paracels - preparatory work for underway. Courses.
The construction of such a station could be considered as a political compromise of the moment, in a context of tense situation between China and the United States around a possible fortification of the island. It would therefore be a "gentle" method of establishing its reef occupation, while at the same time minimizing the risk of escalating tensions due to an umpteenth backfill in this region.
But in the end, the objective will always be the same, to materialize the control of the Scarborough reef by the establishment of a permanent infrastructure. It is almost the same method, less "subtle", that the Philippines used in 1999, which caused to fail on the reef of Second Thomas a landing craft the LT 57 Sierra Madre , in which is constantly 7 marines Of the Philippine army to symbolize the occupation of the reef.
Scarborough Reef (Image: Digital Global)
The location of Scarborough Reef and other Chinese islands in the South China Sea
This story of an "environmental monitoring station" on the Scarborough reef also suggests the construction of an oceanic observation station for UNESCO on the Fiery Cross reef in 1987, which provoked a naval battle between the navy Chinese and Vietnamese navies on March 14, 1988. Fiery Cross became one of the largest artificial islands that the Chinese created in the Spratleys.
The Scarborough Reef is a coral atoll that lands on an oceanic basin of 3,500 meters depth. Its triangular shape, its perimeter measures in 55 km which contains a lagoon of 130 km².
Used in the 1950s as a shooting range by the US military from the Subic Bay military base, vegetation on the reef is largely destroyed. In May 1997, the Philippines took control of Scarborough after a confrontation with Chinese coast guard ships. But this reef has fallen into the hands of the Chinese after a new confrontation of the coastguards of both countries in April 2012.
It is unclear at this time when and where precisely China will begin work on the said environmental monitoring station. But it could be a replica of the in the Paracels - this is a 80 meter x 30 meter platform with an 820-square meter facility, 80 meters long for vessels not moving more than 500 tonnes.
A Chinese environmental monitoring station in the South China Sea. (Photo: People Daily)
Given the relatively remote geographic location of the Chinese mainland, it is not excluded that the Chinese would want to use amphibious aircraft as the new AG600 , which is , to connect with the Scarborough Reef.
The announcement of the construction being made, it will now be interesting to observe the reaction of the United States, which so far opposed any form of construction on this reef considered strategic by its location. A recent incident has recently occurred involving a US Navy P-3C and a Chinese Army KJ-200 AWACS , both patrolling near the Scarborough Reef.
The Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs has already specified at that China will do whatever it wants on Chinese soil, answering a question of journalist on the reef of Scarborough . He has not failed to recall the warming relations between China and the Philippines recently, thanks to the many trade and aid agreements signed between the two countries, since the new Filipino President Rodrigo Duterte is in power.
To be continued.
Henri K.
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To maintain its effective control of the Scarborough reef, which is strategically located in the eastern South China Sea and less than 240 km from the Philippine coast, China will no longer be satisfied with sending bombers Or AWACS on patrol.
According to an interview with the mayor of the city of Sansha - a prefecture town on Yongxing Island in the Paracels - preparatory work for underway. Courses.
The construction of such a station could be considered as a political compromise of the moment, in a context of tense situation between China and the United States around a possible fortification of the island. It would therefore be a "gentle" method of establishing its reef occupation, while at the same time minimizing the risk of escalating tensions due to an umpteenth backfill in this region.
But in the end, the objective will always be the same, to materialize the control of the Scarborough reef by the establishment of a permanent infrastructure. It is almost the same method, less "subtle", that the Philippines used in 1999, which caused to fail on the reef of Second Thomas a landing craft the LT 57 Sierra Madre , in which is constantly 7 marines Of the Philippine army to symbolize the occupation of the reef.
Scarborough Reef (Image: Digital Global)
The location of Scarborough Reef and other Chinese islands in the South China Sea
This story of an "environmental monitoring station" on the Scarborough reef also suggests the construction of an oceanic observation station for UNESCO on the Fiery Cross reef in 1987, which provoked a naval battle between the navy Chinese and Vietnamese navies on March 14, 1988. Fiery Cross became one of the largest artificial islands that the Chinese created in the Spratleys.
The Scarborough Reef is a coral atoll that lands on an oceanic basin of 3,500 meters depth. Its triangular shape, its perimeter measures in 55 km which contains a lagoon of 130 km².
Used in the 1950s as a shooting range by the US military from the Subic Bay military base, vegetation on the reef is largely destroyed. In May 1997, the Philippines took control of Scarborough after a confrontation with Chinese coast guard ships. But this reef has fallen into the hands of the Chinese after a new confrontation of the coastguards of both countries in April 2012.
It is unclear at this time when and where precisely China will begin work on the said environmental monitoring station. But it could be a replica of the in the Paracels - this is a 80 meter x 30 meter platform with an 820-square meter facility, 80 meters long for vessels not moving more than 500 tonnes.
A Chinese environmental monitoring station in the South China Sea. (Photo: People Daily)
Given the relatively remote geographic location of the Chinese mainland, it is not excluded that the Chinese would want to use amphibious aircraft as the new AG600 , which is , to connect with the Scarborough Reef.
The announcement of the construction being made, it will now be interesting to observe the reaction of the United States, which so far opposed any form of construction on this reef considered strategic by its location. A recent incident has recently occurred involving a US Navy P-3C and a Chinese Army KJ-200 AWACS , both patrolling near the Scarborough Reef.
The Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs has already specified at that China will do whatever it wants on Chinese soil, answering a question of journalist on the reef of Scarborough . He has not failed to recall the warming relations between China and the Philippines recently, thanks to the many trade and aid agreements signed between the two countries, since the new Filipino President Rodrigo Duterte is in power.
To be continued.
Henri K.
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