China's SCS Strategy Thread

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Because they're getting serious cold feet about if they can take Taiwan or not.

Philippines is far from an ideal candidate but an idea is that it's better to lose Philippines than to send the whole US navy into an attack on Chinese core lands, only to get everything sunk.

If China smashes Philippines into fine paste, US can at least argue for EU to oppose China economically.

The risks for US to bank on China to attack Philippines is much lower than for US themselves to come out at Taiwan, and can achieve the same economical effects regarding EU.

Another line of thinking is that China maybe will not give as much energy fighting an offensive war vs a defensive war.
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That is stupid. It is like feeding Ukraine into Russia just to make case for a sanction. Sorry that is a bad trade. China controlling Taiwan and Philipine in exchange for sanction makes China stronger.
 
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That is stupid. It is like feeding Ukraine into Russia just to make case for a sanction. Sorry that is a bad trade. China controlling Taiwan and Philipine in exchange for sanction makes China stronger.
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It's the price they just have to pay because they have less comprehensive national power. I think if US was really smart, it would try to bait China into far away and smaller conflicts where US' abundance of overseas bases plays to an advantage, while the small conflict scales prevent China from fully mobilizing.

Try to wrest Africa away from China for example. Or start conflicts in South America.
 
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Does anyone have any insight into the recent change in Thai government and the new PM Paetongtarn Shinawatra? I think a few years ago the Shinawatras were seen as complete CIA/NED stooges but the same was said about Anwar Ibrahim in Malaysia and he's done a complete 180 (just look at the West's meltdown at him praising Putin at the EEF in Vladivostok!)

Anyway the military aligned parties all voted for her to be PM so I'm hoping that's a good sign for continued China-Thai relations.
 
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Does anyone have any insight into the recent change in Thai government and the new PM Paetongtarn Shinawatra? I think a few years ago the Shinawatras were seen as complete CIA/NED stooges but the same was said about Anwar Ibrahim in Malaysia and he's done a complete 180 (just look at the West's meltdown at him praising Putin at the EEF in Vladivostok!)

Anyway the military aligned parties all voted for her to be PM so I'm hoping that's a good sign for continued China-Thai relations.
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Seems like the new PM and her family was always quite close to China. China is also quite close to Thai royalty and Thai military, the US is at a big disadvantage in Thailand.
 
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Facm337 said:
Does anyone have any insight into the recent change in Thai government and the new PM Paetongtarn Shinawatra? I think a few years ago the Shinawatras were seen as complete CIA/NED stooges but the same was said about Anwar Ibrahim in Malaysia and he's done a complete 180 (just look at the West's meltdown at him praising Putin at the EEF in Vladivostok!)

Anyway the military aligned parties all voted for her to be PM so I'm hoping that's a good sign for continued China-Thai relations.
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coolgod said:
Seems like the new PM and her family was always quite close to China. China is also quite close to Thai royalty and Thai military, the US is at a big disadvantage in Thailand.
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Thais people on social media seem to be liberal with outdated anti-china narrative that coming from west worship influencer but opposite for government and high-level businessman. even pro-west opposition party deep-down still cooperate with china.

many of Thais elite are Chinese ethnic.
 

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If China smashes Philippines into fine paste, US can at least argue for EU to oppose China economically.
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There is nothing worthy of smashing in the Philippines militarily, not even those EDCA bases, I mean have u seen the state of disrepair of them? US is going to spend upwards of $100 million upgrading and just to bring them up to par. How long do you think that’s going to take?
 
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Facm337 said:
Does anyone have any insight into the recent change in Thai government and the new PM Paetongtarn Shinawatra? I think a few years ago the Shinawatras were seen as complete CIA/NED stooges but the same was said about Anwar Ibrahim in Malaysia and he's done a complete 180 (just look at the West's meltdown at him praising Putin at the EEF in Vladivostok!)

Anyway the military aligned parties all voted for her to be PM so I'm hoping that's a good sign for continued China-Thai relations.
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The new PM's father Thaksin Shinawatra and aunt Yingluck Shinawatra were both in favor of stronger economic ties with China when they were PM. The military's stated reasons for removing Yingluck from office specifically stemmed from Yingluck's
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deal with China, which the military promptly cancelled after the coup. After the military revoked her passport, Yingluck became a citizen of Serbia, not exactly a country choice you'd expect for a CIA/NED stooge.
 
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