China's Defense/Military Breaking News Thread

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You ... don't really read Chinese, do you? And yet you are quoting from Tuku. Very odd.

Anyway, here's a non-gibberish version of the title: 官方爆料：中国空军重歼成功拦截外国越界飞机
Official Disclosure: China's Air Force heavy fighter successfully intercepted a foreign aircraft which entered Chinese Airspace

The caption is more or less correct.

Anyway, Tuku is part of China.com... which is rather unreliable. If the alleged press conference did in fact happened and the exchange took place I should expect to see it in more reputable media soon. IN any event it's really nothing to write home about, it's most likely a version of the 2001 Hainan incident that didn't go bad - a plane flying very close to Chinese airspace and left when the PLAAF scrambled to nudge it further off.

 

[AssassinsMace]

Uh yeah, I was born in the US. Did you see me posting the story at first? No, because I was inquiring. Is there something wrong with that? Why would you spin a story you don't believe? Interesting how a fake story has to spun to one's liking.

 

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Uh yeah, I was born in the US. Did you see me posting the story at first? No, because I was inquiring. Is there something wrong with that? Why would you spin a story you don't believe? Interesting how a fake story has to spun to one's liking.

My, you are prickly.

No, the odd thing is a non-Chinese reader quoting from Tuku - not exactly your go-to place for English-language sources on Chinese miltech. If you browse that site a bit you'll find that it's.. oh... extremely local.

 

[AssassinsMace]

I can say the same for you since many of your posts come off as condescending. You really have to admit if you don't believe the story, why need to spin it in the first place? It doesn't make your take any more valid unless something else offended you.

 

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I can say the same for you since many of your posts come off as condescending. You really have to admit if you don't believe the story, why need to spin it in the first place? It doesn't make your take any more valid unless something else offended you.

What can you say the same about me? That I quote from languages I don't understand? THAT's what I found odd, no point getting all defensive about it.

And kindly point out the spin I put on it, and I'd be very much obliged.

HINT: Suggesting that something is probably not significant because nobody seems to be paying any attention to it is not spin. It's a simple statement of fact.

 

[AssassinsMace]

What can you say the same about me? That I quote from languages I don't understand? THAT's what I found odd, no point getting all defensive about it.

And kindly point out the spin I put on it, and I'd be very much obliged.

HINT: Suggesting that something is probably not significant because nobody seems to be paying any attention to it is not spin. It's a simple statement of fact.

Again are you offended by an inquiry. Am I not suppose to speak of it because maybe no one would do that to China? Ask Rumsfeld about how no one would do that since his best friend was shot down over China.

If you don't believe the story in the first place then how can be like the Hainan incident? That's called spin.

 

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Again are you offended by an inquiry. Am I not suppose to speak of it because maybe no one would do that to China? Ask Rumsfeld about how no one would do that since his best friend was shot down over China.

If you don't believe the story in the first place then how can be like the Hainan incident? That's called spin.

I am not offended and I honestly have no idea where you get that idea from. I was curious why you would be quoting from a very local site entirely in Chinese when you don't even speak it (you still haven't answered that by the way, but that's fine, you are not obligated to).

And you are getting incoherent. I invite you to quote for me where I said no one would cross into Chinese air space. You won't find it because I never said so. The whole Hainan Incident for example involves (well, your mileage may vary but when you are crusing 12.1 nm off a nation's territorial baseline you could easily cross over) crossing into Chinese air space so your entire premise is faulty anyway.

And no, it's not spin. It's really quite simple. I find a story lacking in credibility because it hasn't been widely reported, and was quoted from a site that has more editorial content than real news. That doesn't mean I believe the story could not have happened... and indeed that's why I suggested a way it COULD have happened.

It's like reading the story of 'celebrity X CHEATS' in tabloid A and not really buying it. That doesn't mean I think the celebrity could never cheat, it just means I don't trust tabloid A without further confirmation.

 

[AssassinsMace]

I am not offended and I honestly have no idea where you get that idea from. I was curious why you would be quoting from a very local site entirely in Chinese when you don't even speak it (you still haven't answered that by the way, but that's fine, you are not obligated to).

And you are getting incoherent. I invite you to quote for me where I said no one would cross into Chinese air space. You won't find it because I never said so. The whole Hainan Incident for example involves (well, your mileage may vary but when you are crusing 12.1 nm off a nation's territorial baseline you could easily cross over) crossing into Chinese air space so your entire premise is faulty anyway.

And no, it's not spin. It's really quite simple. I find a story lacking in credibility because it hasn't been widely reported, and was quoted from a site that has more editorial content than real news. That doesn't mean I believe the story could not have happened... and indeed that's why I suggested a way it COULD have happened.

It's like reading the story of 'celebrity X CHEATS' in tabloid A and not really buying it. That doesn't mean I think the celebrity could never cheat, it just means I don't trust tabloid A without further confirmation.

Since I'm in the US, it's not very local is it?

You said it yourself in the first place that the story is not from a reputable media. Meaning you don't believe it. So again if you don't believe in the first place then how can you change a story that you don't believe and spin it to be more like the Hainan incident? That's what's screwy. That's comes across as odd.

If you don't know the facts then how do you know it's more like the Hainan incident?

And if you dare to read my posts carefully like you demand everyone else in here that you're condescending to, I said it didn't mesh but somehow you're offended by it being suggested hence why you had to spin to declare it was by default China's fault i.e. Hainan. Odd. Again why be offended by an inquiry? I don't know if it's true or not hence why I was asking for more info if anyone heard of it. And you have a problem with that?

 

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I don't believe anybody would do that over China ..... not even the US

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[hmmwv]

Here is the Chinese version of the scheduled May 2012 MOD Press Briefing.

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Which contains the following exchange, I quote:

记者：据媒体报道，前段时间广空某团的飞行员逼退了外国违规越界的侦察机，请问今年以来解放军共处置了多少起这样的事件？与往年相比，其他国家对我国进行抵近侦察的频率是怎么样的一个趋势？
杨宇军：中国空军部队一直保持着很高的戒备状态，有效履行着保卫国家领土主权和领空安全的职责。

Same sentence and statement as what others have translated before, the fact that MOD didn't outright deny such rumor adds credibility to this claim.