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hijiki

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Imagine if we were stupid enough to use the Ainu rebellions to justify separating the Hokkaido Ezo republic from Japan. Oh if only we had the navy back then to insert ourselves in between the two and just wait a few decades until they forget that they are the same nation. These sort of people surely prove that we have to strike first before they can get us

Just like in Okinawa, I'm sure PRC propagandists already try to inspire that kind of thinking.
 

manqiangrexue

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I'd respond in kind with dogs if the forums weren't so heavily moderated :)
You can "respond" but you've got nothing to say. Speaking to a China that walks every step on its own power bowing to no one from the position of a country that used to dominate Asia but now hugs the boots of the nation that slaughter its dreams, compares itself to religious nuts that eat the feces of a man they believe to be a living god and daydreams about the US gifting them territories, what is there to say? Except, "woof"? ;)
 
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hijiki

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Well back to Taiwan, something worth noting for understanding situation at large.
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Taipei, Nov. 14 (CNA) Japan remains the favorite country for Taiwanese, with nearly 60 of respondents picking the Northeast Asian country, according to the results of a survey commissioned by the de facto Japanese embassy in Taiwan in February 2019 and released Thursday.

Fifty-nine percent of people in Taiwan preferred Japan over any other foreign country or region in the world, up 4 percent from 2016, when the survey was last conducted, said the Japan-Taiwan Exchange Association (JTEA).

JTEA represents Japanese interests in Taiwan in the absence of official diplomatic ties.

China and the U.S. picked up 8 percent and 4 percent of votes to rank as the second and third favorite countries of Taiwanese, the poll showed.

People aged 30-39 most favored Japan (66 percent), according to the survey.

Japan was also the favorite country among Taiwanese in previous surveys conducted by the JETA in 2009, 2010 and 2012 and 2016.

In addition, Japan remained the top pick among Taiwanese when asked which country they would prefer to visit, with 44 percent picking Japan, 18 percent Europe, 12 percent Australia and New Zealand, 9 percent the U.S. and Canada and 8 percent China.

The same survey also shows that 37 percent of respondents believe Japan is the country or area with which Taiwan should have the closest relationship, followed by China with 31 percent.

However, the survey indicates that only 15 percent of respondents believe Japan has most influence over Taiwan, with the top two picks being China at 45 percent and the U.S. with 33 percent.

The survey was conducted by market researcher Nielsen from Feb. 14 to Feb. 27 2019 via the Internet and computer-assisted telephone interviews. A total of 1,003 samples were collected from Taiwanese aged 20-80 nationwide and the survey has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.
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manqiangrexue

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Well back to Taiwan, something worth noting for understanding situation at large.
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Taipei, Nov. 14 (CNA) Japan remains the favorite country for Taiwanese, with nearly 60 of respondents picking the Northeast Asian country, according to the results of a survey commissioned by the de facto Japanese embassy in Taiwan in February 2019 and released Thursday.

Fifty-nine percent of people in Taiwan preferred Japan over any other foreign country or region in the world, up 4 percent from 2016, when the survey was last conducted, said the Japan-Taiwan Exchange Association (JTEA).

JTEA represents Japanese interests in Taiwan in the absence of official diplomatic ties.

China and the U.S. picked up 8 percent and 4 percent of votes to rank as the second and third favorite countries of Taiwanese, the poll showed.

People aged 30-39 most favored Japan (66 percent), according to the survey.

Japan was also the favorite country among Taiwanese in previous surveys conducted by the JETA in 2009, 2010 and 2012 and 2016.

In addition, Japan remained the top pick among Taiwanese when asked which country they would prefer to visit, with 44 percent picking Japan, 18 percent Europe, 12 percent Australia and New Zealand, 9 percent the U.S. and Canada and 8 percent China.

The same survey also shows that 37 percent of respondents believe Japan is the country or area with which Taiwan should have the closest relationship, followed by China with 31 percent.

However, the survey indicates that only 15 percent of respondents believe Japan has most influence over Taiwan, with the top two picks being China at 45 percent and the U.S. with 33 percent.

The survey was conducted by market researcher Nielsen from Feb. 14 to Feb. 27 2019 via the Internet and computer-assisted telephone interviews. A total of 1,003 samples were collected from Taiwanese aged 20-80 nationwide and the survey has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.
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Awwww, don't you guys just love to be petted and belly rubbed. Make some cartoons, smile, put on a kimono as you serve kids meal-sized portions of sushi, "Don't you love us? We're so nice! Please love us; we're so harmless and have no power on our own. We would never dare cause trouble for America again; we're totally different from the guys that started WWII!" LOLOL Samurai would be rolling around in their graves if they saw what Japan has become.
 
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nlalyst

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In the short term, yeah worse, but in the long term might have been better, Taiwan being handed over to Chinag Kai-shek set the curse of the "One China policy" problem upon it. If the US had occupied it, it could have gone either straight to independent country or returned back to Japan like with the Ryukyu islands and Bonin islands.
If the US had occupied Taiwan, then ROC would probably not have the option to flee to Taiwan and the civil war would've been concluded in 1949. However, I doubt the Taiwanese would want to become Japanese subjects again. The options would've been: join China, become independent, or remain a US protectorate with the ambition to one day become part of the US (!?).

I would wager that independence would've been the most probable outcome, if a referendum was allowed. Afterall, that would've been a very different Taiwan without the 1.2 million refugees from the mainland.
 
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hijiki

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If the US had occupied Taiwan, then ROC would probably not have the option to flee to Taiwan and the civil war would've been concluded in 1949. However, I doubt the Taiwanese would want to become Japanese subjects again. The options would've been: join China, become independent, or remain a US protectorate with the ambition to one day become part of the US (!?).

I would wager that independence would've been the most probable outcome, if a referendum was allowed. Afterall, that would've been a very different Taiwan without the 1.2 million refugees from the mainland.

Quite a fair post.
 

Gatekeeper

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Guys. Our friend from Japan is a history revisionist. He's already tried to change history on anther thread. But @Hendrik_2000 and I put him straight on a few things. Now he's here trying to do the same with regards to Taiwan.

Is there no ends to his revisionist endeavour? He just won't admit that Japan is the sole cost of the current problems in East Asia. In fact, he even argue that some of the class A war criminals are classify as class A...... is because the victor says so. And now he's tries to say Taiwan should be known as Formosa again!
 
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