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Gatekeeper

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So Taiwan as a nation claims Tibet?

And to be honest it doesn't exactly conflict with her paying tribute to an Indian soldier who happened to be of Tibetan ethnic background.

Yes Taiwan as a nation officially known as ROC. See their official website and look at their passport. It clearly says ROC. (although she stealthily change this recently by reducing the English words. But note she won't dare change the Chinese words still on them)

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And she did not just honour a dead "Indian soldier", And I think you know that which is why you posted that tweet. She knows the significant of her tweet is not just to honouring a "dead Indian soldier". She is playing politics with you and the world with her honouring a "dead Indian soldier".

But be that as it may, she knows the dead Indian is an ethnic Tibetan, she also knew that he died fighting against China's and her country's, ROC's claim to that part of the border. So she is honouring a foreign combatant fighting against her country's claim! And if it's any doubt he is not just a mere Indian national, take a look at the Tibetan flags flying around at the funeral, and drapped around his coffin.

So please, you are better than this. You know better than this. You know what her message meant to foreigners for propaganda purposes. And I think you know too.
 
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Hardly surprising news. Just waiting for the bully accusation to come.

Czech billionaire buys $239,000 in pianos rejected by China due to Taiwan visit
Czech billionaire shows support for legislator’s Taiwan trip, donates Petrof pianos to local schools
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manqiangrexue

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There is no Taiwan as a nation because it is not a nation nor is it recognized as one. Taiwan as a clown-show, however, does have many interesting claims and fantasies without the power or ability to possibly realize any of them... unless of course, they come to their senses and return home.
 

hijiki

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Taiwan (ROC) officially lays claim to more territories then the PRC:

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The interesting thing about the asserted Taiwan claim is that the claim on mainland territory of China is because of its official title; the Republic of China. Between the two existing Chinas and international, the One-China policy was agreed so as to end the two China identity competition.But in that agreement, which China government represented the agreed-one-and-only-China was not agreed on. So its kind of like in limbo. But the real funny bit is that since the 1990s, Taiwanese in general no longer want to be any form of China. But they don't change their official name because the PRC threatens Taiwan with military force if they declare independence. So geopolitically speaking, Taiwan is stuck with the official title ROC until the PRC ends its military threat against Taiwan declaring independence from China identity.
 

Hendrik_2000

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The interesting thing about the asserted Taiwan claim is that the claim on mainland territory of China is because of its official title; the Republic of China. Between the two existing Chinas and international, the One-China policy was agreed so as to end the two China identity competition.But in that agreement, which China government represented the agreed-one-and-only-China was not agreed on. So its kind of like in limbo. But the real funny bit is that since the 1990s, Taiwanese in general no longer want to be any form of China. But they don't change their official name because the PRC threatens Taiwan with military force if they declare independence. So geopolitically speaking, Taiwan is stuck with the official title ROC until the PRC ends its military threat against Taiwan declaring independence from China identity.

Hijiki Taiwan independent is not decided by Taiwanese only. 1.4 billion Chinese people must also be consulted and unless they agree there will never be independent . It is written in the law of PRC "Anti secession law"
But actually it has it origin long before that law. In the opening poem of three kingdom the most venerated story in Chinese heart and mind. three men swear allegiance to each other and to restore Han empire. Throughout long Chinese history the country has been divided but eventually it will be reunited . So now China is in divided phase but that is only temporary.
There is no question Taiwan is part of China a lot of patriot give their life for Taiwan inclusion in China one of them is my Hero Kok Sengya aka Chen Zhenggong, aka Fukumatsu
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  • The empire, long divided, must unite; long united, must divide. Thus it has ever been.
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hijiki

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Hijiki Taiwan independent is not decided by Taiwanese only. 1.4 billion Chinese people must also be consulted and unless they agree there will never be independent . It is written in the law of PRC "Anti secession law"
But actually it has it origin long before that law. In the opening poem of three kingdom the most venerated story in Chinese heart and mind. three men swear allegiance to each other and to restore Han empire. Throughout long Chinese history the country has been divided but eventually it will be reunited . So now China is in divided phase but that is only temporary
  • The empire, long divided, must unite; long united, must divide. Thus it has ever been.
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Poems are nice :)

Although there was no official jurisdiction capacity by a Chinese dynasty on Taiwan until the run-away Ming and the pursuing Qing dynasty. The first foreign residence on Taiwan were Spanish and Portuguese. Before the Europeans, it was just the natives in control on the island.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Poems are nice :)

Although there was no official jurisdiction capacity by a Chinese dynasty on Taiwan until the run-away Ming and the pursuing Qing dynasty. The first foreign residence on Taiwan were Spanish and Portuguese. Before the Europeans, it was just the natives in control on the island.
tsch, tsch and you called yourself japanophile and you don't know the story of Kokusenya Gassen (The Battles of Koxinga) 国性爺合戦
Still play in Kabuki theater until today
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He was Ming Loyalist swear to restore Ming dynasty but unfortunately lost the battle against the Qing. fleeing mainland he become King of Taiwan after he defeat the dutch. He was born in Hirado a small town close to Nagasaki from Chinese father and Japanese mother. When he was young his father send him back to school in Foochow Fujian province
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hijiki

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tsch, tsch and you called yourself japanophile and you don't know the story of Kokusenya Gassen (The Battles of Koxinga) 国性爺合戦
Still play in Kabuki theater until today
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He was Ming Loyalist swear to restore Ming dynasty but unfortunately lost the battle against the Qing. fleeing mainland he become King of Taiwan after he defeat the dutch. He was born in Hirado a small town close to Nagasaki from Chinese father and Japanese mother. When he was young his father send him back to school in Foochow Fujian province
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I'm quite certain he had a fascinating life.

But it doesn't change the fact that before Taiwan became part of the Empire of Japan, Taiwan was part of the Ming/Qing dynasty like how the Philippines was once part of the Spanish empire or how India was once part of the British empire. The island of Taiwan had no part in the long history of various mainland China dynasties.
 

RavenClaws

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But it doesn't change the fact that before Taiwan became part of the Empire of Japan, Taiwan was part of the Ming/Qing dynasty like how the Philippines was once part of the Spanish empire or how India was once part of the British empire. The island of Taiwan had no part in the long history of various mainland China dynasties.

That's correct, also just like how the Northeast, Xinjiang and inner Mongolia was not part of Ming China or most of China's historical territory, and how Okinawa and Hokkaido was not part of Japanese territory until the 19th century, ditto Hawaii for the USA. Taiwan is a relatively recent addition to the sinosphere of around 300 years, with a 50 year break during Japanese conquest, but still has a longer history than that of the United States as a nation.

However, what do you think would happen if there would be another civil war in America, and the losing party flees to Hawaii. Would the winner on the American mainland leave Hawaii alone?

Taiwan can indeed become independent by taking advantage of political divisions within China, foreign backing and win a war, like Outer Mongolia and Vietnam did (more than one war in Vietnam's case), but right now the Chinese civil war is still in progress.

And if Taiwan wants its independence to be acceptable, it must accept to not become a threat to mainland China, like Canada to the US. If it embarks on a hostile trajectory and threatens to blow up the Three Gorges dam on a whim, then it does not get the privilege of being ignored. Some countries have been invaded for much, much less in very recent history.
 
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