China need a new geopolitical Doctrine ?

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BMEWS

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Just like Trump had planned to use Meng hostage situation as bargaining chip in the Trade war/ war against huawei, it is becoming increasingly obvious that UK was hoping/hoped to use its 5G stance to sway China on the HK issue... I think UK was hoping to dangle the carrot of "Okay we will let Huawei in our market up to 35% marketshare if you promise not to do any national security laws and allow us to continue to subvert and sabotage Hong Kong etc"...

As for Pompous, 99% of the things out of his mouth is nonsense, its farcical propaganda border-lining insanity, he also said that US had the best COVID response in the world....
 

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As for the yahoo article, talking about the Trump admin putting plan to Takedown CCP, where have I heard that before? Oh right, back in early Janurary when Wuhan was being ravaged the very same Steve Bannon was on his podcast WarRoom Pandemic talking about the TakeDown of Xi....
 

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It's not a yahoo article, it's just the yahoo india page which includes an article from an Indian pro-BJP newspaper
 

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If we talk about Geopolitics as how people like Mackinder and Spykman are talking about it, then I think China already has a powerful and effective Geopolitical Doctrine. That would be what I would call "the balancer".

One of the biggest issue I had with both Mackinder and Spykman, is that they seems to be way too accepting and respectful of the boundary of China set by the Qing dynasty, and rather reluctant to reconsider defining most of Qing China as part of the "Crescent" (or the Rimland, in Spykman's words). I guess it has to do with the fact that detail history of China was not readily available to them during their era.

In my opinion, the boundary between the Mackinder's Pivot and the Crescent (or between Spykman's Heartland and Rimland) in the East Asia front should at least be along the Ming Great Wall. The Pivot (Heartland) should certainly include Xinjiang, Manchuria, Inner Mongolia and even the Tibetan plateau. The equivalent of Mackinder's Central and Eastern Europe in East Asia should be the North China Plain, and the North West Mountain Area (西北山区,including Shaanxi, Shanxi, Gansu, Ningxia provinces; 陕西、山西、甘肃、宁夏).

This I believe will explain everything. In a sense, China's very existence in today's world is a great balancing power. China's control of Inner Mongolia, Xinjiang, Manchuria, Tibet and Qinghai, ensured that any great Continental Power (including Russia) that wants to dominate the Eurasian super continent (the World-Island) by taking over the landmass of Russia and the rest of the Heartland, will be faced with big hole in their full circle.

For example, if a Russo-German empire were to form right now, they will need to spend a huge amount of resources, time and effort to take what ought to be part of Pivot (Heartland) from China. And that only completed the Pivot (heartland), in order to dominate East Asia, they will need to go further and control the North China Plain and the North West Mountain Area.

This means that China's very existence prevents another continental power from dominating the Heartland and achieving world domination by controlling the Rimland from the Heartland. However, China itself has shown no aspiration to be a Continental Power with the entirety of the Heartland as the first goal. In fact, China is investing overwhelmingly in capabilities that is most essential for Maritime Power. This means that China is using its geopolitical assets only to "cockblock" other potential Continental Power (Russia, Germany, etc) from dominating, and at the same time using its industrial economic resources only to challenge the dominating Maritime Power (USA and etc).

This is slightly different from the Imperial Japanese from the 1920 to 1945. The Japanese, despite being a Island nation, wanted to be both a Maritime power and a Continental power at the same time. They attacked the mainland, and contemplated invading the Heartland held by USSR. The Japanese Grand Strategy created an existential crisis for the USSR and the USA, enough to cause both of them to decide upon defeating and destroying the Japanese Empire at all cost.
 
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In prison, you would get shanked for telling lies or snitching. China needs to one day be able to handle lying US HK FLG TW India appropriately.
 

Nobonita Barua

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In prison, you would get shanked for telling lies or snitching. China needs to one day be able to handle lying US HK FLG TW India appropriately.
As i said, China is very bad in "talking" game. They should get good at this game, or hire someone who is good talker.
This requesting US "to visit xinxiang(or whatever)" is wayyyyyyyyy to defensive. And why the heck i should be requesting US to visit my own country just because they are "concerned"?
China should focus on avenging the dead native americans. Soul of dead native americans are with china. First & most important way to dwal with this is to target the USD.
Also i think china should stand up for Marshal island because US is setting up some base in wake island which belong to Marshal island.
 

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As i said, China is very bad in "talking" game. They should get good at this game, or hire someone who is good talker.
This requesting US "to visit xinxiang(or whatever)" is wayyyyyyyyy to defensive. And why the heck i should be requesting US to visit my own country just because they are "concerned"?
China should focus on avenging the dead native americans. Soul of dead native americans are with china. First & most important way to dwal with this is to target the USD.
Also i think china should stand up for Marshal island because US is setting up some base in wake island which belong to Marshal island.


This is normal for an average thinker. If somebody threw shit at them, they throw back with a bigger shit. In the end, nobody wins, both of them stinks.

If you read the first few chapters of the ancient text Art of War, it is very easy to see, the Chinese leaders are playing for long term win than outright displaying of strenght or confronting the enemy. Take note to rise on top of Chinese leadership, people need to show they are more than capable to display their wisdom. One mistake they are out. Chinese leaders on the top are not rookies elected by mistake or by chance.
 

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This is normal for an average thinker. If somebody threw shit at them, they throw back with a bigger shit. In the end, nobody wins, both of them stinks.

If you read the first few chapters of the ancient text Art of War, it is very easy to see, the Chinese leaders are playing for long term win than outright displaying of strenght or confronting the enemy. Take note to rise on top of Chinese leadership, people need to show they are more than capable to display their wisdom. One mistake they are out. Chinese leaders on the top are not rookies elected by mistake or by chance.

Everyone quotes Art of War but seriously had China always been strategic then the century of humiliation would have never happened.

I dont know if US has a deep state elite to what extent with grand plans like PNAC and whatnot, but it seems unlikely the CCP is thinking that long term far out....

China has certain structural forces advantageous to it, but when it comes to propaganda, PR, advertisment, misinfo and disinfo, cognative dissounance, triple think, fake news, information warfare, etc its still no competitor with the West.
 

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This is normal for an average thinker. If somebody threw shit at them, they throw back with a bigger shit. In the end, nobody wins, both of them stinks.

If you read the first few chapters of the ancient text Art of War, it is very easy to see, the Chinese leaders are playing for long term win than outright displaying of strenght or confronting the enemy. Take note to rise on top of Chinese leadership, people need to show they are more than capable to display their wisdom. One mistake they are out. Chinese leaders on the top are not rookies elected by mistake or by chance.

I am so tired of hearing about this nonsense. What "strategy" includes allowing your REPUTATION to be shredded without a fight?

Whenever someone quotes "Art of War" I reach for my gun. Its that trite and ridiculous now.
 

Nobonita Barua

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This is normal for an average thinker. If somebody threw shit at them, they throw back with a bigger shit. In the end, nobody wins, both of them stinks.
Yaa, that's why your post looks very average.
It's not about shit throwing. In this era, talk is soft power, there are countries across globe who has young population.
Why do you think US is throwing shit? Do they expect to bring china down with talking?No
Its soft power.
China needs to encounter this vis a vis US to remind the world how US came to be.
If somebody throws shit at you & you don't counter it, that means you are giving that somebody the option of throwing shit at you without resistance.
It's like the proverb "If a dog bites you, you aren't going to bite it back". No You are going to give it a kick unless you want to become dinner of all dogs in the city. The world isn't saint. The adversaries china dealing with are worse than dogs.
What is shit to you, can actually mean something else to people in other countries. China should keep that in mind.
 
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