China need a new geopolitical Doctrine ?
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Why should the US kick out a Chinese company? Why would that be good for China?
AssassinsMace
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Oh yeah but everyone losing the China market is no problem for their companies...
China should ban import of Indian goods, ban export of high tech equipments, Pharma or manufacturing of cell phones etc in India as retaliation. They could do a joint exercise with south asian nations just to poke in India's nose too.
It'll teach Chinese companies and Chinese people in general not to be naive about the US and look at it as if it were some sort of god-like entity. Plus, at this point, the US is more reliant on China instead of the other way around due to the coronavirus. The greatest example is the US airline industry. If you want to talk about this type of news, you should go to the Chinese economics thread to do so.
On the other hand:
supercat
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You should take any western and Japanese report about China with a huge pinch of salt. Then you will realize that ASEAN countries are far from a geopolitical disaster for China. In fact the ASEAN replaced both EU and U.S. to become China's top trading partner in 2020 Q1. With the signing of RCEP before the end 2020, the contrary is true: there is a bright future for the relationship of ASEAN and China.
The Xinjiang sterilization fairy tale is just some old recycled Tibetan forced sterilization BS, nothing new. The matter of fact is, as the economy develops and income rises, the fertility rate will come down. This is same for both Uyghurs and Han people who live in Xinjiang. But in Xinjiang, while there is a 2-child limit for Han family, there is no such limit for Uyghur family, so the Uyghur population have actually increased proportionally in Xinjiang and other Uyghur regions. You should view Western propaganda with a very critical eye, instead of swallowing what they tell you uncritically with hook, line, and sinker.
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By that standard, the US should ban all exports from China and recognize Taiwan independence because "it'll teach Chinese companes and Chinese people in general not to be naive". I mean you can use the same logic to justify any anti-China action by the US. Do you want a war?
Hendrik_2000
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I don't think China single out the UIghur for birth control For a long time they have exception to the rule and allow to breed like rabbit because they were disadvantage But 20 years has gone by and their lot is much better now than 20 years ago So china decide to treat every one the same and only allow 2 children per family.
So it is far from discriminating the uighur It is more of a case treat every one equally But western MSM spin it as if the uighur are targeted Not at all
Seem like you read too much of western MSm and treat is as bible Whatever China does the western MSM will treat it as prosecution etc to dehumanize China and chinese because they scare the wit of China
But china still growing compare to cold war the present propaganda is mild so no need to worry.
All those lie of Han swamping the xinjiang is just lie thru Historically northern Xinjiang has always been predominately Han in fact Urumchi was built by the Han and the proprotion is as is now 40% Han and 60% Uighur. by the 19th century many Han migrated back top the east. But after the korean war Mao ordered the veteran of the war to populate the area again and at the same time guarded against Soviet intervention They were called Bingtuan a militia farmer brigade They built most of the modern town, farmland and industry in Xinjiang and No the Uighur do nothing and they stay mostly in the south.
Uighur is not native of Xinjiang they were imigrant because their empire were terminated by the Kazak and Chinese state allow them to settle in Xinjiang since the Dzungar which is the native of Xinjian were exterminated by the Qing
The Dzungar Khanate was a confederation of several Mongol tribes that emerged in the early 17th century, and the last great in Asia. Some scholars estimate that about 80% of the Dzungar population, or around 500,000 to 800,000 people, were killed by a combination of warfare and disease during or after the Qing conquest in 1755–1757. After wiping out the native population of , the Qing government then resettled , , , and people on state farms in Dzungaria along with Manchu to repopulate the area.
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manqiangrexue
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I admit your source is biased. Whether or not something is fair depends on the rules. Han Chinese were allowed to have 1 child until recently, it became 2. How many are Uighurs allowed to have? If it's less or more than 2, then it's unfair, but that also has to account for the decades of advantage they did not deserve when they were not held to the one child policy. Sterilization rate depends on how often they break the rules; if they never do, the rate is zero. If you keep getting speeding tickets while your friends don't, you need to prove that you guys drive the same way before inferring that the police are unfair.
How strong does your PR have to be such that the media of a rival country wouldn't dare write smear articles about you?
If any Chinese company wants to leave China because China's self-defense encumbered its profits, then it should go and see what user base it has after Chinese people find out. For me, if my company lost 30% clientele, I can deal with it, but if my country gave up territory and ceded to a rival to protect my business, I can't live with myself. That's how a patriot thinks; your thinking is greedy merchant leech at best, but most likely you're actually anti-Chinese pretending to be a friend to sow discord among Chinese people. For people who really love China, the sentence is, "This lost business, animosity and lost services to Indian people is all caused by the incompetence and belligerence of India, which achieved nothing for itself." But for China, I wouldn't say nothing cus I think the PLA counter-attack actually gained position (60km sp?), so I'd do it again in a heartbeat.
Doesn't matter if you want a war; a war is here. Every move that America doesn't make, is because it would be obviously self-defeating. There is no mercy and no kindness; these are the final trials of the old king before he relinquishes his throne. Expect to meet and defeat his full force and fury.
Hendrik_2000
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Population make up in 18th century Xinjiang
The Qing genocide against the Dzungar depopulated the land. This made the Qing-sponsored settlement of millions of ethnic Han Chinese, Hui, Turkestani Oasis people (Uyghurs) and Manchu Bannermen in Dzungaria possible. Professor Stanley W. Toops noted that today's demographic situation is similar to that of the early Qing period in Xinjiang. In northern Xinjiang, the Qing brought in Han, Hui, Uyghur, Xibe, and Kazakh colonists after they exterminated the Dzungar Oirat Mongols in the region, with one third of Xinjiang's total population consisting of Hui and Han in the northern area, while around two thirds were Uyghurs in southern Xinjiang's Tarim Basin. In Dzungaria, the Qing established new cities like Ürümqi and . After the Chinese defeated Jahangir Khoja in the 1820s, 12,000 Turki (Uyghur) families were deported by China from the to Dzungaria to colonize and repopulate the area. The basin, which used to be inhabited by Dzungars, is currently inhabited by Kazakhs.
The Qing genocide against the Dzungar depopulated the land. This made the Qing-sponsored settlement of millions of ethnic Han Chinese, Hui, Turkestani Oasis people (Uyghurs) and Manchu Bannermen in Dzungaria possible. Professor Stanley W. Toops noted that today's demographic situation is similar to that of the early Qing period in Xinjiang. In northern Xinjiang, the Qing brought in Han, Hui, Uyghur, Xibe, and Kazakh colonists after they exterminated the Dzungar Oirat Mongols in the region, with one third of Xinjiang's total population consisting of Hui and Han in the northern area, while around two thirds were Uyghurs in southern Xinjiang's Tarim Basin. In Dzungaria, the Qing established new cities like Ürümqi and . After the Chinese defeated Jahangir Khoja in the 1820s, 12,000 Turki (Uyghur) families were deported by China from the to Dzungaria to colonize and repopulate the area. The basin, which used to be inhabited by Dzungars, is currently inhabited by Kazakhs.
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