Yeah, and China is punishing Australia in keeping with its competition and strategy. Why are you whining about the unfairness of punishing Australia but not America?
China need a new geopolitical Doctrine ?
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escobar
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You say unfairly, they say it is a national security issue for them. National security more important that fairness...
Yeah, if Huawei is so good at competing so let them compete. No need to threaten everyone for that. Not threaten does not mean not doing anything to advance your interest...
manqiangrexue
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Like I said, it's their decision if they want to ban Huawei and it's China's decision if it wants to ban their national products. If they do it with Huawei, then China can do it to their exports. I don't know how many times I've explained this. What part of this isn't clicking for you?
What's a threat? I don't even know how you define it. It's as if you think that if country A says they'll ban Huawei and China says then they'll ban some of country A's products as well, then suddenly you think it's China's fault for threatening someone. This is as equal and normal as it gets. What the hell are you talking about? Do you yourself even know? Cus I don't wanna continue this crap with you if you know your argument is discombobulated but just want to keep dragging on hoping to get a last post to save face.
escobar
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Australia already banned Huawei, now you are punishing for what goal? Do you think Australia will change because of your punishment?
US have put many sanction on NK to abandon nuclear weapon, but NK is not going to abandon those weapon
Sometimes China behave exactly like US. You don't punish just because you can.
manqiangrexue
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China doesn't think it's befitting for Australian exports to profit from Chinese customers given their behavior so it picked some areas where China should do business elsewhere, got it? Not that hard to understand. Nobody's under the illusion that it will change Australia's ban on Huawei. It's retaliation, not behavior therapy.
escobar
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Good, if China want to ban their products, China should just do it and not try to cajole them. Just do it like US do sanction.
You don't seem to undertand what is threat enforcement...
Cranking up its military power does not mean out spending the adversary. Where is your logic in this?
manqiangrexue
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Not everybody works on your clock, buddy. The general idea is the same but specific implementation isn't too fast if it's faster than what you want and too slow if it's slower than what you want.
So all the trade barriers China put up for Canada and Australia don't count? Why don't you go read up cus it looks like ignorance is causing you to make mistakes here.
escobar
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It is so funny how you talk exactly about Australia like how US talk about China.
US say China profit with trade with them to become powerfull but not behaving as US want so they are decoupling and are no longer under illusion about China. You and China Gov are saying exactly the same thing with Australia. If you think china should retaliate on Australia so you should also accept US to retaliate on China.
You guys are so blind by idealism that you don't even see you are behaving exactly like US. That is what make China IR incoherent.
manqiangrexue
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Of course I accept it. America should try to defend its global crown, and China should try to take it. I don't fault them for wanting to keep that title and I don't fault them for trying to do their best. You're the one complaining and whining here. I've got no complaints, simply said if they want to do unfair things, we can do it too. This is a cold war for the top of the world, no holds barred.
I thought you said that the coherent strategy is to compete, and now that you see China is and has always been competing at the highest, it's somehow still incoherent for other reasons all the same? LOL Now that's what I call incoherent!
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