China ICBM/SLBM, nuclear arms thread

[Blitzo]

For fvck's sake, seriously - With the PLARF holding the utmost importance in maintaining the strategic nuclear deterrence of the PRC, where those ICBMs and their warheads are absolutely critical to the question of the ultimate survival of the civilizational state - How could they even manage to get this sh1tty??!!

The whole point of the last few pages of discussion where we've concluded that we basically don't know what is actually the case whether in nature or scale.

Also, I've mentioned this to you a few times in the past, but the whole "getting nuked into oblivion" thing is something that should be accepted and internalized as a very possible outcome in the scope of great power competition, for the entire world. There's no need to take it so personally.
I mean this as genuine advice; it'll make military watching much easier once you internalize that lol

 

[Zhejiang]

I think you've missed the point of my post and frankly I don't see how what you are writing has any bearing to what you quoted.

What was your point, I really didn’t understand it. What I said after wards does not have any meaning what you said just me saying that if any did it wouldn’t be as huge of an issue than people are saying on twitter

 

[Zhejiang]

solid rockets don't work like that. you don't make the rocket, then fuel it. the fuel is part of the rocket's structure. It is made alongside the rocket casing.

Why? Because there has to be a hole for the solid rocket fuel to burn into.

The hole is physically part of the rocket and the hole shape changes the thrust profile.

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Water is a liquid. Liquids cannot have holes machined into them.

Water also sloshes around. This unbalances the rocket. Solid rockets explicitly do not allow for sloshing, and if there was indeed water filled solid rockets, you'd immediately notice even by driving it around because the same thing is accounted for in tanker trucks.

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Ah okay that makes more sense on why I see people saying it can only happen to the DF 5. Thanks for that information

 

[Blitzo]

What was your point, I really didn’t understand it. What I said after wards does not have any meaning what you said just me saying that if any did it wouldn’t be as huge of an issue than people are saying on twitter

I was giving an indirect answer to the question about what the future DF-45/XX missile may be like.

 

[gelgoog]

I think the DF-4 is still in service. It also uses liquid fuel. And the rumors might be about that missile. But I doubt it will remain in service for much longer. I mean even the DF-26 has roughly similar range.

 

[Zhejiang]

That seems to be the answer from a former PLAN officer who defected to the US, albeit nothing can be confirmed or verified at this moment.

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How would a former PLAN officer know this stuff, they don’t deal with this and it’s unlikely anyone current would tell him this because he is not in the military still nor would it involve him

 

[Zhejiang]

How would a former PLAN officer know this stuff, they don’t deal with this and it’s unlikely anyone current would tell him this because he is not in the military still nor would it involve him

Not to mention he says “ i have verified though domoinstic friends” why would his friends tell him that information? I doubt he has friends high up in the CMC or in the PLARF. So basically it’s just him saying trust me bro.

 

[BoraTas]

I think even here we are giving way too much credibility to the said article. There are outlets I absolutely approach with caution and even prejudice. Bloomberg is one of them.

There might be an element of truth to this story like some missiles or trucks getting contaminated with water, which then leading to some demotions.

But writing “they were filled with water not fuel”, supposing that the problem is widespread, linking the story to the recent commander demotions (which they call Xi’s mass purge in an extremely bad faith), and then making comments on what Xi is thinking when they have no chance of knowing anything about that is something else. It is knowingly lying. Even if there was a problem with the DF-5s indeed or water was involved in normal procedures, that still would not explain all the weird political signaling.

 

[BoraTas]

Not to mention he says “ i have verified though domoinstic friends” why would his friends tell him that information? I doubt he has friends high up in the CMC or in the PLARF. So basically it’s just him saying trust me bro.

That tweet rung all of my BS alarms. Who is going to tell him LOL?

 

[Zhejiang]

Not to mention he says “ i have verified though domoinstic friends” why would his friends tell him that information? I doubt he has friends high up in the CMC or in the PLARF. So basically it’s just him saying trust me bro.

And his posts from looking at range from 9 generals were arrested for what he says is equipment issues to saying that the military was planning a coup to a staff member is the leader of the PLAN and the defense minister what is a lie because he was an general in the PLAN eastern fleet