China ICBM/SLBM, nuclear arms thread

ACuriousPLAFan

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2023 Report comes sooner than I thought. Some interesting interpretation from DoD:

"Told you so" to FAS report of 420 warheads.
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Also, given that (your) prior estimation of ~526 warheads by (the end of) 2023 and ~1914 warheads by (the end of) 2030 - That's ~198 warheads being produced per year within the 2024-2030 period, or 1 warhead every 1.84 days.
 

james smith esq

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So, according to this report, China completed work on all the new silos. That’s impressive!
Has this been reported, or verified, here, previously? I haven’t kept-up.

I certainly hope to see China achieve deployed nuclear-weapons-parity with the U. S., or, at-least, achieve their desired deterrence-level, in my lifetime. I don’t plan on being around after ‘38, and I’d like to die knowing that the period of Anglo-domination of the world is dying with me!
 
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ZeEa5KPul

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@Kalec Do you know if the DF-5C uses a new staged combustion UDMH/N2O4 engine or does it use the same open cycle engine as the DF-5B?
 

grulle

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the article said as recently as 2021 China had only 200+ warheads. so in two years China roughly doubled its warheads. who knows if this is the rate of warhead production going forward.

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This article says in the 2021 DoD report the US estimated China's warheads at 200.
 
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ismellcopium

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Lol I remember the idiots said China only had like 800 4th gens like last year, now it's
>PLAAF and PLAN Aviation continue to field greater numbers of fourth-generation
aircraft (now more than 1,300 of 1,900 total fighters, not including trainers)
And the "JL-3" (which is still JL-2A/B in my interpretation) is operational as expected
Correct, they refer to the 096's SLBM as an unnamed longer range missile.
 

Maikeru

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Lol I remember the idiots said China only had like 800 4th gens like last year, now it's
>PLAAF and PLAN Aviation continue to field greater numbers of fourth-generation
aircraft (now more than 1,300 of 1,900 total fighters, not including trainers)

Correct, they refer to the 096's SLBM as an unnamed longer range missile.
I'm intrgued as to what the remaining 600 non-4th gen+ fighters are? Surely there can't be that many J7 and J8 still in service? Or are they counting JH-7 as a "fighter"?

My very approximate reckoning:

200+ J20
250 J16
450 J11A/B
550 J10A/B/C
100 Su-30
24 Su-35
50 J15

gets you to 1500 or so. Add 220 JH-7 leaves maybe 180 J7/8 left active.
 
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