China Flanker thread

Status
Not open for further replies.

tphuang

Lieutenant General
Staff member
Super Moderator
VIP Professional
Registered Member
On the basis of your post it comes out clearer that the Chinese J-11B program is very much not the project of producing a Chinese version of the SU-27 with Chinese avionics and engines but rather to leap forward and to manufacture a real 4th generation advanced fighter with AESA, composites, advanced electronics and new range of laser guided missiles.
The dawn of a new Chinese fighter a multi role one to the difference of the air superiority SU-27/J-11.
compared to J-11A, the airframe is the same, but the engine should have higher thrust and better T/W ratio, the radar should be superior, more advanced flight control system, more modern cockpit, better avionics in general (including Russian IRST), more advanced AAMs. Basically, it should be better in almost every aspect compared to the licensed production. That's why China stopped producing J-11A.
 

challenge

Banned Idiot
according to aviation week,two different randome was seen,possibility that two different radar was develop for J-11B.
 

mehdi

Junior Member
Was there any news about what type of radar are being developed???
AESA or Mechanical ones???
 

crobato

Colonel
VIP Professional
Maybe someone can compress it. It was a rather big poster and it has been posted in both the CDF and AFM forums. It showed a picture of the radar, that is completely nothing I have seen from existing both Russian and Chinese designs based on the servos and box components but didn't even say its designation.

It is possible that two radars were developed because China has two competiting firms from Leihua and NRIET. But NRIET has been winning all the contracts from the PLAAF with the exception of the JH-7A, and there is a rumor they want to change even the Leihua sourced radar (JL-10A) of that to NRIET's.

For example, Leihua's SY-80 competed with NRIET's KLJ-6E for the J-7G contract, and it appears to have lost. This despite the SY-80 is capable of using K band (higher than X/J band).

I am now leaning in the position that PL-12 and SD-10 both have different seekers. The PL-12 seeker is from NRIET while the SD-10 seeker is from Leihua.

The rumor for Leihua's candidate for the J-11B contract was something called the JL-15 aka Divine Eagle, where as NRIET's KLJ-4 had the code name 'Falcon' but the 'Falcon' radar turned out to be KLJ-6E for the J-7G.

There is a photo in NRIET's website that shows an ultra low sidelob array that looks like phase array. While it's oval shaped, it does not like like it is the one used on the KJ-2000 AWACS, so it might be for a fighter.
 

tphuang

Lieutenant General
Staff member
Super Moderator
VIP Professional
Registered Member
Maybe someone can compress it. It was a rather big poster and it has been posted in both the CDF and AFM forums. It showed a picture of the radar, that is completely nothing I have seen from existing both Russian and Chinese designs based on the servos and box components but didn't even say its designation.

It is possible that two radars were developed because China has two competiting firms from Leihua and NRIET. But NRIET has been winning all the contracts from the PLAAF with the exception of the JH-7A, and there is a rumor they want to change even the Leihua sourced radar (JL-10A) of that to NRIET's.

For example, Leihua's SY-80 competed with NRIET's KLJ-6E for the J-7G contract, and it appears to have lost. This despite the SY-80 is capable of using K band (higher than X/J band).

I am now leaning in the position that PL-12 and SD-10 both have different seekers. The PL-12 seeker is from NRIET while the SD-10 seeker is from Leihua.

The rumor for Leihua's candidate for the J-11B contract was something called the JL-15 aka Divine Eagle, where as NRIET's KLJ-4 had the code name 'Falcon' but the 'Falcon' radar turned out to be KLJ-6E for the J-7G.

There is a photo in NRIET's website that shows an ultra low sidelob array that looks like phase array. While it's oval shaped, it does not like like it is the one used on the KJ-2000 AWACS, so it might be for a fighter.
hey Chris, can you direct me to that photo?
Also, there is competition from Lab 38, they seem to be doing pretty well recently with all the Y-8 platforms.
 

mehdi

Junior Member
Hey the same from me, the most interesting pic would be that of that supposed phase array developed by NRIET!!!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top