China Flanker Thread II

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by78

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A row of J-16s.

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Biscuits

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Lmao sure 2 helmets that looks nothing alike have something to do with eachother. Has this no name Kevin tested both and found the interior displays to be "almost identical"?

South Africa can't even develop a better fighter than Mirage III upgrades yet we're to believe from Jai West idiots that they can make HMD that would be impactful to the 2nd or 1st most developed aerospace industry in the world.
 

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I agree with you, that's why I said the inside-out tracking would not be happen on miltech HMD anytime soon. However as far as I recall the Hololens army-version is using SLAM, but this project has already been canceled due to power and other issue. The infantry-level HMDs still seems like experimental.
Well yes, HMDs for infantry use would benefit from SLAM since the application would be totally different to HMDs inside a cockpit, on a fighter jet that utilises the ship-board sensors to relay data to the pilot.

Whereas a soldier would rely solely on the HMD for 'extended' first person situational awareness, such that the use case would indeed be analogous to commercial and consumer applications where having a standalone, inside-out tracking system would be an advantage as much as a requirement.

Such considerations wouldn't be a concern, like I said, for flight helmet-mounted displays. In fact it would be a disadvantage, the simple point being, just ask any pilot if they would rather have half dozen cameras on their head, or around the cockpit instead.
 

Gloire_bb

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Still using Russian engines too.
Finding it mildly curious to compare J-11BG with Su-27SM3 - i.e. two deep upgrades of the corresponding flankers.
For Russia, fitting in the new radar wasn't worth it in the equation(Irbis is a bitch to fit in), but engines got replaced -> hotrod flanker (original weight, but 27t of thrust).
For China, AESA radars fit perfectly fine(a good illustration of convenience of AESA fit), but here it is the engine swap that requires too much intrusion to be worth the problems.
 

Blitzo

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Finding it mildly curious to compare J-11BG with Su-27SM3 - i.e. two deep upgrades of the corresponding flankers.
For Russia, fitting in the new radar wasn't worth it in the equation(Irbis is a bitch to fit in), but engines got replaced -> hotrod flanker (original weight, but 27t of thrust).
For China, AESA radars fit perfectly fine(a good illustration of convenience of AESA fit), but here it is the engine swap that requires too much intrusion to be worth the problems.

Regarding the bolded part, I don't think that's necessarily the case.

We've seen some J-11Bs powered by Al-31s that have had their engines changed to WS-10s (I can't remember the specific picture, perhaps @Deino could help).
In this case I think the specific airframe just didn't change its engine to WS-10, but is able to do so if needed, and probably in a manner that is independent of whether the radar is changed or not.
 
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