Quickie
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I explained earlier why I brought it up.
Anyway, we now know the report is genuine, irrespective of whether some of the rescuers are Caucausian or not.
China Flanker Thread II
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I explained earlier why I brought it up.
Anyway, we now know the report is genuine, irrespective of whether some of the rescuers are Caucausian or not.
Actually Kwai, I can't tell either, but we need not pretend that doesn't figure into "who" we are in a positive way, and how we all relate to one another, it can be a barrier to friendship and positive relationship, I'm the one who said "whitey", I was just given Quickie some Krap, I enjoy doing that with my good friends, and some of you guys are my besties, as my tweeny daughters say.... Americans can be lots of different colors and ethnicities, we are all Americans, we can also be confident and even arrogant, I'm sure I have been, and apologys all around, I do let my hair down here on Sino D because I am among my peers, I love all you guys in a brotherly way. I appreciate it when you humor me, and hope I can be equally gracious in return, believe me when I say I feel a great bond of friendship with you all, and also when I express my sorrow that brother aviators have lost their lives serving their country, and respecting your faith, and practice, I would say this in a non-preachy tone, (yes, I are one of those), I believe we all share a Creator, and I believe we are each one prescious to Him.
Finally Quickies intention was to point out the photo may have been doctored??, (we have lots of those too), my point was maybe not, Wolfie is prolly correct that they are local fishermen who tried to help?
Finally, I have made rash/brash statements that upon reflection could have hurt someones pride or feelings when trying to get a point across, feel free to say hey Bax, (my real name, from my grandfather), I think thats unfair, or you hit a raw nerve, I do delete about half of what I write on Sino D, when looking at it I realize it may be 1.IN ERROR, 2. In poor taste, 3.Insensitive or unkind. I would encourage you to look back, there are occasions when I have been in-accurate, and I do print apologys and or retractions as is appropriate..MODS this is OT and feel free to delete any and all of it. Brat
The identity of two pilots in the plane has made public, indeed a tragic loss
Yu liang 喻亮, whom is also the squadron commander, won 3rd class medal 3 times and won "Outstanding pilot of the 2011 air combat exercise" (golden halmet?)
Wu Yomgmin武勇明, whom is the squadron deputy chief of staff, won 2nd class medal once, and 3rd class medal once.
Yu liang 喻亮, whom is also the squadron commander, won 3rd class medal 3 times and won "Outstanding pilot of the 2011 air combat exercise" (golden halmet?)
Wu Yomgmin武勇明, whom is the squadron deputy chief of staff, won 2nd class medal once, and 3rd class medal once.
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SinoSoldier
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Is it confirmed that this was a Su-27UBK? The yellowish hue seems to suggest it's a prototype or fresh built plane. A J-11BS perhaps, or even a J-16.
Equation
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It's the background light tan color sand that gives off a yellowish hue look on the plane that's all. If you look closely enough you can still see some light gray on the fuselage and vertical stabilizer.
superdog
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Press release from ministry of defense said it was Su-27.
plawolf
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From these detailed pictures, it can be confirmed as a Su27UBK. Only Russian built Su27s and Su30s have been seen carrying the wingtip EW pods, and only Su27UBKs have the canted vertical tail tips.
It looks like the pilots stayed with the plane until the last possible moment and only punched out once they were sure the plane wasn't going to hit anyone on the ground, but by then it was too late. Had they been trying to save the plane, they would have not ejected.
These guys went above and beyond the call of duty and put their lives on the line to make sure innocents were not hurt by the doomed plane. I don't think anyone could have anything but praise and respect for their actions and mourn the loss of such brave and dedicated men.
The only thing I could think they might have done differently was for the rear seat pilot to punch out at a safe altitude. Only one pilot is needed to guide the plane down in a safe area, and since both pilots were very senior and experienced, either one of them could have done it on their own, so there was no point in them both putting themselves in harms way. You cannot eject the front seat without making life impossible for the rear seat pilot, so the front seat pilot had to stay, but there should have been no real impediment to the front seater if the rear seater punched out. There are many photos on the web with Tornados and even a Su27UBK flying perfectly fine with the rear seat having been ejected in flight. I guess loyalty made the rear seater stay, and it is a tragedy he paid such a steep price for it.
It looks like the pilots stayed with the plane until the last possible moment and only punched out once they were sure the plane wasn't going to hit anyone on the ground, but by then it was too late. Had they been trying to save the plane, they would have not ejected.
These guys went above and beyond the call of duty and put their lives on the line to make sure innocents were not hurt by the doomed plane. I don't think anyone could have anything but praise and respect for their actions and mourn the loss of such brave and dedicated men.
The only thing I could think they might have done differently was for the rear seat pilot to punch out at a safe altitude. Only one pilot is needed to guide the plane down in a safe area, and since both pilots were very senior and experienced, either one of them could have done it on their own, so there was no point in them both putting themselves in harms way. You cannot eject the front seat without making life impossible for the rear seat pilot, so the front seat pilot had to stay, but there should have been no real impediment to the front seater if the rear seater punched out. There are many photos on the web with Tornados and even a Su27UBK flying perfectly fine with the rear seat having been ejected in flight. I guess loyalty made the rear seater stay, and it is a tragedy he paid such a steep price for it.
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