China Flanker Thread II
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Clearly a cheap shot aimed at a new prototype.
RIP to the pilots. PLAAF should stop indoctrinating them to treat their aircraft above all else. If all is lost, don't bother saving the plane. A pilot worth much more than the vehicle he pilots.
SteelBird
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Damn. I just saw this too.
Since this accident only just happened, the report of both pilots KIA is unlikely to be from anything remotely official, and from the photo, the canopy and ejection seats are all absent, which strongly indicates that the pilots ejected to me. If the pilots ejected, then there is a good chance they survived. Here's to hoping the reports of the pilots' demise are greatly exaggerated.
Also, looking at the picture, does anyone else think the colour of the plane looks a little yellowish?
I noticed that at once when seeing the photo. Canopy and ejection seats gone! I don't believe the pilots die. This report was posted so quickly and spread around on the net. There are chance that it might contains some mistake. So, wait to see more official news.
asif iqbal
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Aircraft does not look badly damaged, infact for a crash landing it looks in good condition the cock pit is in good condition
Aircraft Can be replaced but not pilots, RIP they paid the ultimate price for being a fighter pilot
Aircraft Can be replaced but not pilots, RIP they paid the ultimate price for being a fighter pilot
asif iqbal
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You can have the best ejection seats in the world, the thing is its all dependent on air speed, angle of ejection, orientation of aircraft, G force it ejects and many other factors, and on occasions all these factors come against you and the result is pilots can't eject
A Martain Baker equipped JF17 crashed killing the pilot last year, F22 have failed, thats just the risk flying has
plawolf
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A lot of the reports about the pilots being killed claimed they were killed because they didn't eject, but looking at those pictures, that clearly isn't so. I am more and more inclined to think the KIA reports are just rumours, and wrong at that.
It would be extremely unusual for pilots who had ejected at a reasonable altitude to be killed by the ejection process. The vast majority of ejection related fatalities involving modern ejection seats happen because the pilots ejected too late/low and their parachutes did not have time to deploy fully. Had that been the case, the eye witness reports would have said the pilots died because their chutes did not open rather than because they did not eject.
I am thinking that the 'did not eject' story came about because the people who witnessed the crash did not see parachutes and assumed the pilots were still onboard. But from those pictures, it is clear that the pilots did eject, and if they did so early enough that eye witnesses who saw the plane come down did not see the chutes, then there is a very good chance they ejected high enough for their seats and chutes to deploy properly, which would give them a very good chance of survival.
It would be extremely unusual for pilots who had ejected at a reasonable altitude to be killed by the ejection process. The vast majority of ejection related fatalities involving modern ejection seats happen because the pilots ejected too late/low and their parachutes did not have time to deploy fully. Had that been the case, the eye witness reports would have said the pilots died because their chutes did not open rather than because they did not eject.
I am thinking that the 'did not eject' story came about because the people who witnessed the crash did not see parachutes and assumed the pilots were still onboard. But from those pictures, it is clear that the pilots did eject, and if they did so early enough that eye witnesses who saw the plane come down did not see the chutes, then there is a very good chance they ejected high enough for their seats and chutes to deploy properly, which would give them a very good chance of survival.
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