China Flanker Thread II

[tphuang]

OT
I understand that the US governments spends $1.60 for every dollar it receives in taxes. The difference is made up by selling Treasury bonds and because ordinary investors can only buy so much of them, or even consider they already have enough, much of those are sold to the Fed who gives dollars in return it magically creates out of thin air.
That's an interesting way of keeping taxes low but it might have to end soon.

Let's get back on the topic of flankers.

 

[escobar]

J-11B

 

[franco-russe]

First digit 4 in serial, that must be 32 Division 95 Regt Lianyungang, Jinan MRAF (40x3x).

 

[FORBIN]

Someone know the number of J-11B/BS in service ?

I have 4 Rgts in PLAAF and 1 in PLAN normaly about 120 ?

 

[franco-russe]

That is correct as of right now - I hope/expect there will be one more PLAAF regiment.

 

[asif iqbal]

Yes that is right, the Regiments 1, 22, 57, 89 and 111 are J11B/BS with 20 x J11B + 4 x J11BS each

Note that the 22 Regiment 8 Division is a navy

But the interesting thing is that 4 out if the 5 Regiments are running on WS-10 engines, the 1st Regiment 1st Divison is running on AL-31

So I like to think that 96 aircraft are running on WS-10 giving 192 WS-10 engines

Now we have 105 J11 units

Add to that 78 x Su-27 SK/UKB and 100 x Su-30 MKK/MKK2

So now the count of Flankers is over 400 units with PLAAF/PLAN

However the first Su-27 were delivered in 1992 now over 20 years old, if they were well maintained properly they should do easily until 2015 and beyond but I guess newer J11B will eventaully replace them

 

[FORBIN]

Interresting that !

In 1992 ! PLAN are about 3000 combat aircrafts but many many Mig17/19 !!!

For J-11, 105 build under license but i know the last about 45 called J-11A are little different , radar ...
What rgts are equipped with ?

For J-15 it evokes 24 buid this year.

For J-16, equivalent of SU-30 MKK2 ( 24 buy/72 provided ) 24 ? ongoing of construction.
Certainly for PLANAF.

 

[hmmwv]

Interresting that !

In 1992 ! PLAN are about 3000 combat aircrafts but many many Mig17/19 !!!

For J-11, 105 build under license but i know the last about 45 called J-11A are little different , radar ...
What rgts are equipped with ?

For J-15 it evokes 24 buid this year.

For J-16, equivalent of SU-30 MKK2 ( 24 buy/72 provided ) 24 ? ongoing of construction.
Certainly for PLANAF.

J11 is assembled in SAC from complete knock down kits shipped from Russia, J11A is made entirely in China except the engine and radar. The 120 or so J11B is the first modified design with improved domestic air frame, avionics, and engines. As of now J16 is strictly a PLAAF project, not PLANAF.

 

[asif iqbal]

the deliverys of Flankers from Russia is as follows

24 x Su-27 (18 Su-27SK and 6 Su-UBK) delivered in 1992
2 x Su-27UBK delivered also in 1992
24 x Su-27 (20 Su-27SK and 4 Su-27UBK) delivered in 1996-1997
28 x Su-27 UKB delivered in 2000-2002

total 78

and

38 x Su-30 MKK delivered in 2000-2001
38 x Su-30 MKK delivered in 2002-2003
24 x Su-30 MK2 delivered in 2004

total 100

 

[FORBIN]

SU-27

The first rgt equiped was : 9/3Div/Wuhu/Nankin MR in 1992 ( logically here near Shanghai the largest city and economic hub ) actually SU-30 MKK
After :
6/2Div/Suixi/Guangzhou 1996-97
99/33div/Chongqing/Chengdu 2000/02

J-11
Production started in 12/1998 very laborious to beginning, 300 Russians help !
1998 : 2
1999 : 3
2000 : about 6
2001 : " "
2002 : 10
2003 : 15
2004 : 17/18
2005 : 20 start of production of the J-11A N°61
2006 : " "
2007 : max 5
Total : 105 : 60 J-11 and 45 J-11A, 200 planned to the origin

Rgts :
1st/1/Anshan/Shenyang MR 2002 actually J-11B now Su-27 how place are they ?
19/7/Zhangjiakou/Pékin 2004
40/14/Nanchang/Nankin 2005
55/19/Jining/Jinan 2005 J-11A
16/6/Yinchuan/Lanzhou 2006 J-11A

For rgts J-11A i am not completely sure.

J-11B now about 120 : 100 PLAA+24 PLAN
Start 2007/8 ? number ?
If anyone have.

Rgts :
1st/1/Anshan/Shenyang MR the first i think
89/Pulandian/Dalian Base/Shenyang
95/32/Lianyungang Betabu/Jinan
41/14/Wuyishan/Nankin
22/8/Jialaichi PLAN South Fleet

Su-30MKK
Rgts :
9/3/Wuhu Nankin MR/2001 ex Su-27
13Rgt now 170 Br/OEU-Agressors Cangzou 2001
52/18 now 53/18/Changsha/Guangzhou 2003
87Rgt/29 now 85 Br/Quzhou/Nankin 2005

Su-30 MKK2
10/4Div/Luqiao now Ningbo-Zhuangqiao/PLAN East Fleet 2004

NB : 48 Su-30 MKK3 considered in 2006