China Flanker Thread II

[Deino]

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超级大本营军事网消息，中国海军歼-15S型双座双发重型舰载战斗机于11月3日9时55分在北方某地成功首飞，该机是在国产歼-15的基础上而生产一型舰载战机，根据超大消息，该机具有空中伙伴加油能力。

歼-15S于10：06分左右顺利降落，整个首飞过程历时10分钟左右，至少在机场上方绕场4周，这是继10月31日，310工程“鹘鹰”01机首飞后，北方某地的第二架新型战机首飞。

从目前的情况来看，对于急需舰载战斗机的中国航母编队而言，如果想快速的获得一款双座型舰载机，那么采用成熟串列双座技术的歼-15S则是现有情况下的首选。同时，双座型使得歼-15舰载战斗机得以向更加广泛的多用途发展，除了大家熟悉的空战、攻击等任务外，还有一个必备的就是伙伴加油能力。

采用了串列双座技术的歼-15舰载战斗机，一方面利于提高远程巡逻的效率，一方面也利于新飞行员的战斗转换，同时减少长时间飞行给飞行员带来的压力，有效提升空中作战的效能。对于中国这样一个从未自行设计建造过航母，同时也未使用过航母的国家来说，首艘航母平台的舰载机首先要考虑的便是“成熟实用”，而不是要求一定要非常先进。我们相信，在通过“辽宁”号航母和歼-15战斗机的培养和训练之后，我们必将会发展自己的大型航母和四代机的舰载型。

 

[Lion]

My GOD!!! Has China military aviation go crazy?

J-15S, J-16, Y-9, Y-20, J-31, JL-15 and not to mention uncountable Y-8XX projects??? How many projects they are running????
China uses to boast about its mega infrastructure civil engineering projects, looks like the military are emulating that.

Probably some J-18 STOVL will pop out later. HAHAHA..

 

[Lion]

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Congrat China for J-15S project. Once again , this J-15S proves WS-10A is serving China military aviation very well. Now we have seen 2 important project of J-16 and J-15S first prototypes running with domestic WS-10A instead of usual AL-31 engines.
This clearly shows WS-10A engine is very mature and opposite to what many western analyst of China not having a single domestic modern turbofan serving the military and have problem manufacture it.
But this also comfirm my analysis Chengdu AVIC has big trouble obtaining WS-10A for its own project like J-10A and J-10B. You can all see, J-10A is only able to continue in serial production because they turn their engine source to Russia instead of Shenyang Liming.

Looks like Shenyang Liming is giving all kind of excuse to derail any of Chengdu projects including the J-10B which until now has not enter any operation. J-20 able to obtain some WS-10G, probably due to some very high level intervention to keep this top 5th gen project alive.

We can see all Shenyang project, be it J-11B, J-11BS, J-15, J-15S, J-16 have totally not a single problem of obtaining WS-10A engines. Except the J-31 which uses another different engines.

 

[Lion]

Hmmmm ...

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IMO I think that's a SM and not a J-15S since it features the standard Russian wing-tip pylons (even if the J-16 has them too ??? ) and IMO it looks like having a long sting and it has the standard wings.

Waiting for more ... on the other side the primer colour is different !

Deino

How about this one? LOL... PS tandem seat shot.

 

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[tphuang]

Congrat China for J-15S project. Once again , this J-15S proves WS-10A is serving China military aviation very well. Now we have seen 2 important project of J-16 and J-15S first prototypes running with domestic WS-10A instead of usual AL-31 engines.
This clearly shows WS-10A engine is very mature and opposite to what many western analyst of China not having a single domestic modern turbofan serving the military and have problem manufacture it.
But this also comfirm my analysis Chengdu AVIC has big trouble obtaining WS-10A for its own project like J-10A and J-10B. You can all see, J-10A is only able to continue in serial production because they turn their engine source to Russia instead of Shenyang Liming.

Looks like Shenyang Liming is giving all kind of excuse to derail any of Chengdu projects including the J-10B which until now has not enter any operation. J-20 able to obtain some WS-10G, probably due to some very high level intervention to keep this top 5th gen project alive.

We can see all Shenyang project, be it J-11B, J-11BS, J-15, J-15S, J-16 have totally not a single problem of obtaining WS-10A engines. Except the J-31 which uses another different engines.

There are reasons why J-10 project is still using AL-31FN. Please look into WS-10A history before saying something as like "Chengdu AVIC has big trouble obtaining WS-10A".

 

[Deino]

J-15S

Exactly the same image as posted three post above by "mady" !! Why ???

These are new however ....

 

[Lion]

There are reasons why J-10 project is still using AL-31FN. Please look into WS-10A history before saying something as like "Chengdu AVIC has big trouble obtaining WS-10A".

I did look and that is the conclusion. If you are so convinced the very reason why J-10A and J-10B so far has not getting any WS-10A engines for their projects besides prototypes while Shenyang projects has so many of them including operational jets running WS-10A freely, feel free to correct me.

 

[asif iqbal]

WS10A is a proven platform and currently 4 x Flanker Regiments are using it which makes almost 200 engines and no engine incident

Also I believe WS13 is in some sort of production, only reason JF17 Block II is not using it is because PAF needs them badly without any delay

Could be the story or maybe we see a miracle and the slight delay in the Block II is due to all new JF17 receiving WS13 that be awesome

 

[Schumacher]

From WS10 powered existing J11 to new J16, J15, SAC's role in babysitting WS10 to maturity is a major contribution to China's engine development. I think that alone makes SAC still easily the top dog in China for now.