China Flanker Thread II
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pakistan AF actually modified several sidewinder into training missile,this minus the rocket motor,the warhead,actuator.
except the IR seeker.
when IR seeker lock on to a target,it generate grinding sound,this indicate ltarget lock on,the ground controller will radio opposite aitrcraft tell him that he been shoot down.
except the IR seeker.
when IR seeker lock on to a target,it generate grinding sound,this indicate ltarget lock on,the ground controller will radio opposite aitrcraft tell him that he been shoot down.
Semi-Lobster
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Looks like according to Kanwa China won't be getting any Su-33s
Aside from the usual pedantics about China from the Russian media, if this article is to be believed not only wil China not be getting any Su-33s but most likely any Su-33 derived carrier based fighter is down the drain and given how this is probably already 'old news' in Moscow and Beijing, any future Chinese aircraft based fighter will have to be indigenous. I wonder how this will effect the buying and trading partnership between Russia and China in the future.
Aside from the usual pedantics about China from the Russian media, if this article is to be believed not only wil China not be getting any Su-33s but most likely any Su-33 derived carrier based fighter is down the drain and given how this is probably already 'old news' in Moscow and Beijing, any future Chinese aircraft based fighter will have to be indigenous. I wonder how this will effect the buying and trading partnership between Russia and China in the future.
AssassinsMace
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This is pretty much a Pinkov fabrication from the very beginning. He's just covering up his own mistakes with more bull.
Semi-Lobster
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I'm always a little suspicious on most Russian sources relating to China, especially given the somewhat suspect basic writing style and accusatory tone of a supposedly 'professional' article. care to expand on this?
AssassinsMace
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Depends on where the lie begins. Was there really an order by China to get Su-33s? None of the info we've been reading comes from China. It's all been outside sources. Is there any evidence that this is true? Pinkov, in the nature of the self-hating Chinese that he is, will draw a conclusion first, then search for anything that he can spin to support it and then report it as fact. And how does he come up with his conclusions? Basically it's everything the anti-China neo-cons wish to hear. So there's an automatic audience there for him. So far I've only read that all this Russian concern about copyrights comes from his reporting and then others in the media who grab onto what he puts out there. If the Russians are so concerned, then why do they continue to try to sell military hardware to China. They're now even trying to sell advance technology they never did before. Since no one has really seen evidence of the so widely reported Su-33 deal, Pinkov easily throws it in with his theory of copyright infringement. If the quote is true... for all we know is Pinkov bribed someone into saying it. Like mentioned before, if the Russians are concerned about copyright, then why do they continue to try to sell more advanced weapons? They could've easily stopped Chinese fighter ambitions by ceasing to sell China engines. We've seen before anti-China Chinese so drunk with the attention the West gives to them that they start fabricating lies. Like dissident Harry Wu for American TV exposed a ring of human organ sellers from China in the US. The case was dropped in court because there was no evidence that was happening. Now you only see Harry Wu peddling his propaganda to the most anti-China factions of the West. Where you use to see him on TV as the West's anti-China poster boy, the mainstrean media has silently shut him out.
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