RedMercury
Junior Member
Then they need to stop listening pronto cos form reading some of the rubbish posted by westerns I'm not surprised some westerners believe so much nonsense about the world.
China Flame Attendants
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The authorities changed the route. I was watching some live video of it and it looked like it worked. It didn't quite look like London or Paris because I suppose they managed to duck out by changing the route. It was still a bit embarassing looking though, with the torchbearers smiling and waving despite the fact that they were surrounded by by dozens of booted, truncheon carrying-riot police, motorcycle cops, helicopters, cop cars etc. I don't think that they can spin this as a victory, the protesters succeded in disrupting.
RedMercury
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They may claim victory as a thief would after a successful heist. Shame on them.
Infra_Man99
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You are wrong on all these accounts.
Yes, the press in the US and Europe reported that Saddam's Iraq had WMDs and terrorist connections. There are many cases of the press in the US and Europe failing to report the truth. The press in the US and Europe is filled with disinformation.
The Chinese flame attendants had the accepted duty to be the back-up protection when the primary protection (the lousy job by Paris' and London's police) failed. The primary protection was also suppose to arrest the crazy protesters, and they did arrest them. The primary protection failed to do their protective job many times, thankfully the Chinese flame attendants did not. The flame attendants did not go beyond their duties and arrest people (last time I checked). Watch Youtube.com to see these videos.
Paris and London gave the Chinese flame attendants the right to protect the flame and its runner. Where is proof the flame attendants were illegal to be back-up defenders? If it was illegal, why didn't the Paris and London police arrest the flame attendants? Another failure by Paris and London police? Pleeaaase.
The US and Europe's media do not show all sides of the issue. Keep telling that to yourself, but there are billions of people around the world (from the US to Europe to Russia to China to Asia to Africa to Latin America) that disagree with the US media.
Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat past failures.
I agree. I will make an effort to see CCTV and comapre it to the full coverage of CNN today in San Francisco.
The CNN coverage was excellent. They showed the whole torch relay. Unlike in Paris or London the SFPD was armed to the teeth and kept the demonstrators away from the torch.
While I do not follow the Olympics..I understand the tradition of the torch. I understand also much of the outcry on Tibet and the unrest there. I will leave it there.
Even thought SF is a liberal city, but it's also a chinese strong hold.
not surprsingly, some of those pro-tibet protesters got overwhelmed by the the pro-china supporters. And some of those protesters got beat up and attacked also. it's safe to say SF is no London and Paris. Chinese history is SF is very long.
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Around 2:15 p.m., flag-waving pro-China demonstrators attacked a 7-foot-wide pro-Tibet sign hanging on the Ferry Building. A man tried to restore the sign, but a swarm of opponents surrounded him. Another man rushed from the crowd and grabbed one of the China flags from a protester, triggering a pushing match between the two sides. Eventually, the squabble dissipated and a pro-China man grabbed the Tibet sign and tore it clean off the wall.
Police said clashes related to the protests had been minor. But the situation was tense for hours before the run, and at least one person was detained in front of the ballpark this morning. A few hours later, a confrontation between the two sides escalated to a physical violence, when a San Francisco man named Kevin Johnson, 48, walked into a crowd of torch supporters and began yelling, "Communists!"
The crowd encircled Johnson and the confrontation escalated when Johnson pulled a Chinese flag off a man's backpack. Then, someone grabbed Johnson's throat and another person punched him in the face before police intervened and walked him to safety.
Earlier, pro-Tibetan protesters in the area complained that they had been pepper sprayed, although they didn't know who did it. San Francisco resident Matt Winger, 22, flushed his red eyes with water and said, "It stings like hell."
not surprsingly, some of those pro-tibet protesters got overwhelmed by the the pro-china supporters. And some of those protesters got beat up and attacked also. it's safe to say SF is no London and Paris. Chinese history is SF is very long.
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Around 2:15 p.m., flag-waving pro-China demonstrators attacked a 7-foot-wide pro-Tibet sign hanging on the Ferry Building. A man tried to restore the sign, but a swarm of opponents surrounded him. Another man rushed from the crowd and grabbed one of the China flags from a protester, triggering a pushing match between the two sides. Eventually, the squabble dissipated and a pro-China man grabbed the Tibet sign and tore it clean off the wall.
Police said clashes related to the protests had been minor. But the situation was tense for hours before the run, and at least one person was detained in front of the ballpark this morning. A few hours later, a confrontation between the two sides escalated to a physical violence, when a San Francisco man named Kevin Johnson, 48, walked into a crowd of torch supporters and began yelling, "Communists!"
The crowd encircled Johnson and the confrontation escalated when Johnson pulled a Chinese flag off a man's backpack. Then, someone grabbed Johnson's throat and another person punched him in the face before police intervened and walked him to safety.
Earlier, pro-Tibetan protesters in the area complained that they had been pepper sprayed, although they didn't know who did it. San Francisco resident Matt Winger, 22, flushed his red eyes with water and said, "It stings like hell."
maozedong
Banned Idiot
I hate those few Western countries that their own equivalent to the whole world, they account for the number of the world's population? Or how much of the area in the world? Those who violate the Olympic torch for the people of Paris and the San Francisco% of the urban population? Only need few hundreds or few thousands of people can undermine the torch carrier,in this way, they can think that the media in the West staged a play, but I think this is a farce. in San Francisco, there are more than 10,000 overseas Chinese to participate in the Olympic torch to defend the action, they are the residents of San Francisco, they do not have the political concern, but also for those who are shameless acts of vandalism and angry mob.
Who is behind? Those so-called protesters from the United States, Canada and even Europe went to San Francisco, who is to pay the costs of these anti-China organization raised their Western countries for decades, why hundreds of thousands of Palestinians refugee camps living in the Middle East, and Western countries not to protest, and why a few thugs in Tibet can be migrated to the United States, some people pay for them in the western development has become an anti-China tool?
Olympic flame is lit from Greece started, and then start sending end to the host country, is a torch of the Olympic athletes, is a worldwide, protesters are free, but they are deprived of other athletes transmission torch of freedom , I see this picture, a tall man of the mob forcibly snatch a girl sitting in a wheelchair on the torch of the disabled, this is not mob then what is it?
As long as slightly IQ people know how to think: Why 2008, so a coincidence? There will be riots in Tibet - and the same day the Western Tibet independence organizations together impact the Chinese Embassy, and the Western media machine-activated everything organized for the purpose of destroying China from the Olympic Games.
Who is behind? Those so-called protesters from the United States, Canada and even Europe went to San Francisco, who is to pay the costs of these anti-China organization raised their Western countries for decades, why hundreds of thousands of Palestinians refugee camps living in the Middle East, and Western countries not to protest, and why a few thugs in Tibet can be migrated to the United States, some people pay for them in the western development has become an anti-China tool?
Olympic flame is lit from Greece started, and then start sending end to the host country, is a torch of the Olympic athletes, is a worldwide, protesters are free, but they are deprived of other athletes transmission torch of freedom , I see this picture, a tall man of the mob forcibly snatch a girl sitting in a wheelchair on the torch of the disabled, this is not mob then what is it?
As long as slightly IQ people know how to think: Why 2008, so a coincidence? There will be riots in Tibet - and the same day the Western Tibet independence organizations together impact the Chinese Embassy, and the Western media machine-activated everything organized for the purpose of destroying China from the Olympic Games.
Quickie
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After seeing some of the comments there (in the link posted earlier), I can understand why the world is in the sorry state as it is now. Why should we make a big fuss out of something as minor as this slight misunderstanding which probably originated from the flame attendants' very limited english - who may have sounded rude as a result of it. Why should some people of some nations be so intolerant of such a minor matter?.
The way things are going, I wouldn't be surprised the world will come out worser than it is now as a result of all these so-called peaceful protest. Surely we can put aside our grievances even if it is just for a few weeks during the Olympics.
The way things are going, I wouldn't be surprised the world will come out worser than it is now as a result of all these so-called peaceful protest. Surely we can put aside our grievances even if it is just for a few weeks during the Olympics.
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