China demographics thread.

BoraTas

Captain
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Projected old-age dependency ratios according to The Economist, the most Wumao publication. I don't see a demographic catastrophe here. China will have a demographic advantage over the USA well until the end of the 2030s. All other Western countries are worse than the USA.

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Abominable

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Thoughts about Hungary's policy?
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Produce 4 future taxpayers and we'll exempt you.

Hungary's birth rate went from 1.25 to 1.55 in a few years.

A watered down version could be more reasonable?
Interesting to see how it will play out. But if I was to make a prediction it won't work, and Hungarian birth rates will continue to remain below replacement.

The problem isn't money.
 

tankphobia

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Thoughts about Hungary's policy?
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Produce 4 future taxpayers and we'll exempt you.

Hungary's birth rate went from 1.25 to 1.55 in a few years.

A watered down version could be more reasonable?
Not really sure how effective this will be in China, since the income tax isn't particularly high to begin with. Even then, the Childcare cost and additional housing need for 4 extra children should outweigh any gains from income tax exemption. I believe ultimately people choosing not to have children is largely a cultural issue, a side effect of having a highly educated population that don't want to waste years of education only to throw it all away raising children.
 

PeoplesPoster

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this is pretty good idea. on the other hand, the Chinese government should help make Chinese men generally more attractive, and many laws can help. Unfortunately, the image of Chinese men (and women in many cases) in the abstract, is not good.

There are definitely laws that can make Chinese men far more attractive by removing negative stereotypes, especially because other Asian countries are not instituting these laws.
lol, this is pathetic man. Lets cry to mamma to make me more attractive!
 

azn_cyniq

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The image of Chinese is, using the most racist terms possible, is a short, dark skinned, bucktoothed godless gold digger infested by COVID that blowtorches dogs before eating them alive.

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A way to combat that is through simple, common sense legislation that's already in the works or has already been implemented locally, educate the public about facts relating to other countries, and promote local biotechnology.

1. pass the anti animal cruelty law that's been discussed since 2009. this would disarm both the rhetoric from the right wing ("Chinese are inferior dog eaters!") and the libs ("Chinese are cruel to animals!"). Shenzhen and Zhuhai already banned dog eating, and Jinhua banned a dog meat festival. The one who banned it in Jinhua, Cai Qi, is now in the PBSC.

2. strictly enforce the wildlife laws. get rid of the bear bile farms. It really makes Chinese look backwards and weird.

3. fund education for the foreign public about animal cruelty and disgusting eating habits in their 'Asian allies' and themselves as a contrast. Examples: running endless articles on how Koreans eat millions of dogs, Japanese eat whales and dolphins, Indians drink cow piss, etc. The west goes apeshit over this stuff but so far, they're directing it entirely towards China and giving Koreans/Japanese/Vietnamese/Indians a pass.

4. encourage local biotechnology companies to produce high tech, non-animal foods to prevent them from being monopolized by the west and to reduce dependency on western imports that fuel animal agriculture.

5. promote Chinese religions. For example, give scholarships to foreigners who want to study religion like Buddhism and Daoism in China (even if its Christianity, they'll be studying Chinese Christianity). It's not expensive and let's be honest, a foreigner that wants to study Chinese religions, is already halfway to becoming a self paid wumao.

Religion and values are things that people will actually change their minds for. Proof: China provides halal food everywhere, despite Muslims being <10% population. China has sufficient hard power to avoid overt coercion, so time to start playing the soft power game.
I'm not sure how to say this without sounding offensive, but it sounds to me like you are projecting your insecurities onto this issue. Other than the first sentence, which I completely disagree with, I don't disagree with most of what you said. However, I don't think that the general public's perception of your ethnic group significantly influences your chances of success in the dating scene. If you're attractive, then you're attractive. If you're not attractive, then you're not attractive. It's just that simple. Bear bile, dog meat, and other things of that nature are completely irrelevant.

The same is true for girls. One of my best friends, a Chinese dude, had a terrible perception of India. The only things he associated with India were things like slums, open defecation, body odor, and other bad things. A few months ago, a beautiful Punjabi girl who goes to the same college as him slid into his DMs. That man fell in love instantly. He tossed all of those stereotypes out of the window as soon as he saw her picture and he wouldn't stop talking to me about her for months.

Chinese dudes just need to try their best to make themselves attractive. We shouldn't worry about the general public's perception of China. That doesn't matter.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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I'm not sure how to say this without sounding offensive, but it sounds to me like you are projecting your insecurities onto this issue. Other than the first sentence, which I completely disagree with, I don't disagree with most of what you said. However, I don't think that the general public's perception of your ethnic group significantly influences your chances of success in the dating scene. If you're attractive, then you're attractive. If you're not attractive, then you're not attractive. It's just that simple. Bear bile, dog meat, and other things of that nature are completely irrelevant.

The same is true for girls. One of my best friends, a Chinese dude, had a terrible perception of India. The only things he associated with India were things like slums, open defecation, body odor, and other bad things. A few months ago, a beautiful Punjabi girl who goes to the same college as him slid into his DMs. That man fell in love instantly. He tossed all of those stereotypes out of the window as soon as he saw her picture and he wouldn't stop talking to me about her for months.

Chinese dudes just need to try their best to make themselves attractive. We shouldn't worry about the general public's perception of China. That doesn't matter.
I'm old, married and way out of the dating market which is why I can call it the way I see it instead of dancing around. To right wingers, what I said is exactly that. that's the stereotype using the most racist terms possible all rolled up into 1. Does anyone actually fit that stereotype? no. But it is indeed what the public thinks which is why Chinese Americans get hate crimed.

As for the dog eating stuff? Other than my personal experience, I have seen whites defend Chinese politics but they can't say shit with the dog meat festival, that's how bad it is. They'll talk about hey maybe it's good that Mao shot the landlords... but then someone brings up Yulin and they're all "yeah China sucks". Communism is more defensible than eating dog in the west.
 
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azn_cyniq

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I'm old, married and way out of the dating market which is why I can call it the way I see it instead of dancing around. To right wingers, what I said is exactly that. that's the stereotype using the most racist terms possible all rolled up into 1. Does anyone actually fit that stereotype? no. But it is indeed what the public thinks which is why Chinese Americans get hate crimed.

As for the dog eating stuff? Other than my personal experience, I have seen whites defend Chinese politics but they can't say shit with the dog meat festival, that's how bad it is. They'll talk about hey maybe it's good that Mao shot the landlords... but then someone brings up Yulin and they're all "yeah China sucks". Communism is more defensible than eating dog in the west.
I see. If that's your experience, I won't argue with you. In my experience, the general public's perception of China has little to no impact on my personal life. Almost all of my Chinese friends would agree with me.

For the most part, hate crimes against Chinese people are committed by homeless people, mentally ill people, and drug addicts. That's hardly a symptom of the public's perception of China, although it is quite bad.

Sure, many Americans are shocked by the fact that some Chinese people eat dog meat. I just don't think the issue is significant enough to affect a Chinese dude's attractiveness to American girls. Like I said before, if he's attractive, then he's attractive. If he's not, he's not. I consider myself somewhat attractive and back when I was in Austin for an internship, I had a fling with a right-wing Texan girl. I remember following her on Instagram and noticing that she was following Fox News, Alex Jones, NTD News (LOL), etc. We got along fine for three months. We just didn't talk much about politics. Obviously, this is anecdotal evidence, but most of my Chinese buddies have similar experiences so I'm not convinced that the Chinese government needs to initiate a campaign to boost the attractiveness of Chinese men.
 
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