China demographics thread.
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AssassinsMace
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There was an article that just came out the other day about how "city managers" are alarmed by how many Chinese are unemployed that that spells doom for the future of China. Since the economy is doing well that must mean too many people. Doom that China has too many people that can't find jobs. Doom that that the population isn't growing. Damned if you do... Damned if you don't! Make up your fucking minds!
You think Westerners care when they see you as a threat of raping their women because there too many of you? They just want to see you dance when they say so. Fetch, heathen! Maybe Chinese need more women meaning they're using Chinese women as sexual objects. #MeToo! #MeToo! You think Republicans care about the Chinese people while they're trying to undermine non-white people at home? You think Christians care when they're pro-life yet they want to see more criminals executed?
In the US I use to hear young people when asked what they want to do in the future is they want to become role models. You can't declare yourself a role model when no one is following you? Today they change the name to influencer. What are they a role model or influencer of? It doesn't matter. It's the power they have over others is what they want. Ever notice there are so many self-help books to solve the same thing? You figure they would get all on the same page if they were out to help people. But that's not why. There are so many because each has a signature gimmick because the author wants recognition for themselves. So when people come up with solutions to problems, do you think they're trying help or do they do it to feel how much power they have over others?
When people contradict themselves, they're only thinking about themselves and it's not good advice motivating them.
You think Westerners care when they see you as a threat of raping their women because there too many of you? They just want to see you dance when they say so. Fetch, heathen! Maybe Chinese need more women meaning they're using Chinese women as sexual objects. #MeToo! #MeToo! You think Republicans care about the Chinese people while they're trying to undermine non-white people at home? You think Christians care when they're pro-life yet they want to see more criminals executed?
In the US I use to hear young people when asked what they want to do in the future is they want to become role models. You can't declare yourself a role model when no one is following you? Today they change the name to influencer. What are they a role model or influencer of? It doesn't matter. It's the power they have over others is what they want. Ever notice there are so many self-help books to solve the same thing? You figure they would get all on the same page if they were out to help people. But that's not why. There are so many because each has a signature gimmick because the author wants recognition for themselves. So when people come up with solutions to problems, do you think they're trying help or do they do it to feel how much power they have over others?
When people contradict themselves, they're only thinking about themselves and it's not good advice motivating them.
Women are women, motivated by biological instinct; females enter high paying high stress competitive sectors in the hopes of landing a high earning man, not because they genuinely want to work 80+ hour work weeks, enslaved by their phones. Look at the high turnover in high pressure jobs at places like Goldman Sachs or in other fields like law and medicine, where females drop out of the workforce to become wives and mothers and only re-enter once the children are grown up. And in many cases, these females tend not to return to the workforce if they don't have to.
Have you ever worked in any workplace ever? In my experience it tends to be women trying to get out of doing the hard yards and basically waiting around to get married. Their dream is to be a Lady of Leisure, brunching with their friends at the local cafe before picking the kids up from Daycare. I shit you not, females of the anglosphere don't even parent anymore. I once dated a New York girl from the New England area and she'd been medicated since primary school. The anglo corporate culture- whilst conducive to profits and maximising shareholder return- is completely toxic to families.
The problem is that you're projecting western ideals into how a woman should behave, as opposed to how women do behave.
Females are by nature hypergamous- they want to marry the top high earning achievers, the alpha males; in China, this translates to
高富帅 "GaoFuShuai": Tall, rich and handsome.
In a society as competitive as China, this means that once aspiring middle class chinese families send their daughters to uni, these daughters are automatically not going to date, let alone marry anyone who isn't of the same socio-economic class to attain tertiary education, and the higher paying incomes that result from such certification.
The solution is to encourage younger family formation, where the eggs are most healthy and most plentiful; female high school graduates should be encouraged to become mothers first before thinking about an education- for these females, this necessarily means not going into uni until they're about 33-35 as opposed to the current situation of shengnu, leftover females who are 33-35, university educated and don't even have kids, let alone married!
I don't think bachelor or master education at that age is possible, people brain is getting more lazy and hard to learn when you're older. You can, but it won't be as effective as at the young age of 19-24.
I would say, China should shorten bachelor and master studies, IDK why it is 4 and 3 years, lol. In Europe, it is most of the cases at 3 and 2 years so the whole is 5 years.
I would say, China should shorten bachelor and master studies, IDK why it is 4 and 3 years, lol. In Europe, it is most of the cases at 3 and 2 years so the whole is 5 years.
Well i believe girls should be encouraged to marry when between the ages of 16-30.
These are the years when the woman is going to be the most fertile and science agrees with this assessment.
The thing about the hypergamous nature of women is such that they would rather impregnate themselves with donor sperm than take a chance on any would be bachelor- somehow believing that being a single mother will make her more attractive as a possible mate to these high quality, high earning men.
I personally know of at least one woman in my circle who has done this, and let us not get into the HK and Singapore females who get donor sperm from white man and follow that route.
These are the years when the woman is going to be the most fertile and science agrees with this assessment.
The thing about the hypergamous nature of women is such that they would rather impregnate themselves with donor sperm than take a chance on any would be bachelor- somehow believing that being a single mother will make her more attractive as a possible mate to these high quality, high earning men.
I personally know of at least one woman in my circle who has done this, and let us not get into the HK and Singapore females who get donor sperm from white man and follow that route.
I really don't think Demographics are an insurmountable Issue for China.
Just look at France, it has a good fertility rate (the highest in Europe).
The French government offers many benefit for new mothers. China could maybe implement them in many high income zones. In low income regions, China may do the same in a different way.
What if China promised low taxes, land prices for everyone having more than two children? Won't the fertility boom? If they can create incentives for EV car adoption, they can create incentives for more babies. Somehow, someway, having more babies must lead to increased wealth, happiness and social standing.
Just look at France, it has a good fertility rate (the highest in Europe).
The French government offers many benefit for new mothers. China could maybe implement them in many high income zones. In low income regions, China may do the same in a different way.
What if China promised low taxes, land prices for everyone having more than two children? Won't the fertility boom? If they can create incentives for EV car adoption, they can create incentives for more babies. Somehow, someway, having more babies must lead to increased wealth, happiness and social standing.
Lethe
Captain
I suspect that France has a relatively high fertility rate (by European standards) because it has a relatively high proportion of immigrants from regions with lower socio-economic development status and correspondingly higher birth rates. I'm no expert in the field and am happy to hear evidence to the contrary in the French case or any other, but all the reading I've ever encountered on the attempts of governments to boost population growth is that they have had relatively little effect and that the inverse relationship between socio-economic development and birth rates remains very strong, complicated only by the success of communist countries in reducing birth rates at comparatively low levels of development.
No,even without immigrants, France enjoyed high fertility rates. Historically, France had good fertility. About 14% of GDP is sunk into Social Security services. It is very robust, comprehensive and functioning system.
So many benefits are provided for new mothers.
Do note that there is gender bias and wage gap in France too. Yet it endures.
Lethe
Captain
I don't question that France has good policies to support mothers and families with children. What I question is whether those policies are responsible for France's relatively high fertility rate. And I am not talking about the direct increase from immigration, which is fairly marginal these days*, but rather the fact that immigrants, being generally of lower socioeconomic status than the majority of the population, will themselves tend to have higher fertility rates than the general population, driving up the overall fertility rate of the country.
* The UK's greater rate of immigration today is why its population is projected to continue to increase while that of France flatlines.