Doesn't automatically make his points invalid. Like I said before, my personal belief is that China's core leadership still believe its population is too high and the risks of radical solutions like banning abortions far outweight the risks of doing nothing.
China demographics thread.
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Yeah, it kind of does. Giving every stray dog's opinions merit is no way to go through life.
Lots of personal beliefs in this thread and precious few facts.
The issue I have with his theory, what's the upside of the cpc lying about the population size? Would China be any different if they just said from the beginning that the population was 1.2 billion, I have a hard time believing the people at the top would care to have the biggest population size.
Or, you know, it could be that some random Christian fundamentalist roadside clowns only contribute to spreading fake news while providing little substance.
What do you think banning contraception and abortions would achieve? It would lead to a proliferation of dangerous underground black markets for these purposes - instead of getting abortions in modern clinics under the supervision of trained personnel, women would go to some filthy basement with an unknown "surgeon" to make this procedure. Or they will abandon these children. "Curing" symptoms instead of the causes never amount to good results - the reason why people don't want to have kids is that it is too expensive under the current circumstances, running some pro-birth ads won't change that. To fix the underlying problem, you have to solve the problems of expensive real estate (in progress already), highly unequal schooling quality (contributes to the previous problem), exam grinding, etc.
Vaccination and zero-covid can go hand in hand because vaccines are not a miraculous "now you cannot get sick" option, especially with Omicron.
His arguments are dumb. If the number of births was lower than it actually was, the one child policy would have been gotten rid of a lot sooner. It's a much easier to get rid off an old anti-natal policy than it is to invent tens of thousands of births. Moreover the official birth rate of China isn't exactly impressive so if it's fake they aren't doing a very good job lying.
My guess is that historical birth rates were much higher than reported. In past many births were still done out of hospitals and with the one child policy there was an incentive not to report them in areas with the policy.
It's from the same school of thought as the idea that millions have died of COVID in China but they're somehow covering it up. That's the mainstream opinion among my colleagues.
As for BCG vaccination, China is no longer on the WHO TB endemic list so it makes sense that it isn't given routinely.
For example the UK only immunises children with at least one grandparent from endemic countries, so about 20% of babies receive the vaccine within 28 days. The number has been rising for years, despite falling birth rates.
For example the UK only immunises children with at least one grandparent from endemic countries, so about 20% of babies receive the vaccine within 28 days. The number has been rising for years, despite falling birth rates.
I agree with your guess, moreover we had that thing were the central government came out and suddenly there were like millions more women 'out of nowhere'.
Why did that happen? Well birth of female children weren't properly reported, so they weren't included in various statistics and numbers.
Yup, last year when the 2021 statistics for China population is about to come out, I recall reading a lot of domestic articles talking about the data will be including children that weren't registered because the parents wanted to evade the one and two-child policy at that time.
Moreover, it's actually something that makes sense for local government to conceal, because during one-child policy, I believe them having too high birth rates (going above 1 child a women), it would reflect/be a minus in their 'political assesment score'.
Which means it's actually in the interest of the various heads of local government back then, to try and undercut their birthrates/population, so even if they very much knew about people evading registration of babies, they probably didn't have that great of an incentive to actually investigate into it.
