China Coast Guard and Patrol vessels

hmmwv said:

Well Xijiang should be on close watch because it did make 022s. Note the 36 cutters are all for provincial CMS divisions, not the national level CMS, so we may see another contract in the future, hopefully all large cutters.

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interesting, do you know where yellow sea, xi jiang are all located. I guess which province? Seems like the competition for the cutter contract is pretty intense with so many shipyards capable of building them.

Also, don't know if you saw this, there were talk on hsh that Waigaoqiao shipyard is creating a naval shipbuilding department for cutters and I guess auxiliary ships. Interesting, it did not get anything from this wave of cutters.

tphuang said:

interesting, do you know where yellow sea, xi jiang are all located. I guess which province? Seems like the competition for the cutter contract is pretty intense with so many shipyards capable of building them.

Also, don't know if you saw this, there were talk on hsh that Waigaoqiao shipyard is creating a naval shipbuilding department for cutters and I guess auxiliary ships. Interesting, it did not get anything from this wave of cutters.

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Huanghai shipyard is located at Rongcheng, Shandong Province, I think so far the most technologically advanced ship built is 6000t RORO ferry.

Xijiang is in Liuzhou, Guangxi Province, it used to be a PLAN shipyard and have built patrol ships since the 021 days.

Waigaoqiao is definitely getting into government contracts, the new office is setup to facilitate the building of auxiliaries and "administrative ships" which means law enforcement cutters and rescue tugs.

This 36 cutter contract was first reported in 2011 but largely ignored until now due to the Diaoyu Island incident.

For coast guard I don't think having massive tonnage is so important

I mean the biggest China coast guard vessels is like 5000 ton but Japan is still one step bigger the PLH31 is like the size and weight of a DDG around 7500 tons!! What's the need for such a large coast guard ship? Better to keep tonnage low and have more of them

Yes few large ones here and there maybe but not more than say 5,000 tons that's enough to hear good medical facility's etc

Agreed, the majority of the mundane patrol tasks are done by 1000-2000t class cutters, that will be the bread and butter of the CMS fleet. The reason JCG got the very large cutters originally was to escort its nuclear waste ships.

Engineer said:

There are thirty-six cutters are being built at the moment. This list shows the type, cost and keel laying date for those vessels:

Tags: 600T cutters; 1000T cutters; 1500T cutters; CMS; Chinese Maritime Surveillance; cost of vessels; keel laying date of vessels; type of vessels;

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I hope the the prices quoted isn't true, the ship are really expensive for what they are, especially considering the falling orders of those shipyards. You would think these coast guard agencies would get good deals.

luhai said:

I hope the the prices quoted isn't true, the ship are really expensive for what they are, especially considering the falling orders of those shipyards. You would think these coast guard agencies would get good deals.

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Probably the CCP wants to keep those shipyard financially healthy. Since those money are being recycle within China and keeping it domestic.

luhai said:

I hope the the prices quoted isn't true, the ship are really expensive for what they are, especially considering the falling orders of those shipyards. You would think these coast guard agencies would get good deals.

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The stated contract prices are in RMB (Yuan), after coverted to USD, they are good prices, example item #1, Liaoning province get to built 2 units of 1,000 ton cutters for 200 million Yuan or 100 million yuan each, contract given to Guangzhou HP shipyard.

That is USD 16 million for one CG cutter.

lcloo said:

The stated contract prices are in RMB (Yuan), after coverted to USD, they are good prices, example item #1, Liaoning province get to built 2 units of 1,000 ton cutters for 200 million Yuan or 100 million yuan each, contract given to Guangzhou HP shipyard.

That is USD 16 million for one CG cutter.

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I concur, these are quite cheap. And if you look further to the end, they don't cost the same for the different ships. The last one for Hainan shows 2 1000 ton and 1 1500 ton cutters for lower cost than building the 2 for Liaoning. Not sure how that works. Maybe that's only for the 2 1000 ton cutters?

If you look at the 1500 ton cutter built for Tianjin, that's about 120 million yuan, which is close to 20 million USD. That's still very cheap. Makes you wonder how much 056 cost.

Anybody knows how much the cost for equivalent cutter .... let's say in Japan, EU or the US ?

Would it be safe to say the Chinese one is 2x cheaper ?

Mind you the quality requirement for cutters wouldn't be as high as 056

IIRC the 1000t cutter like the ones seen at HP are built with the old "research ship hull" while the new 1500t design is based on a "fast cutter hull" that's derived from 056/export OPV hull.