China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread

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Kalec

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Where's your evidence? Report doesn't seem to mention anything about mobile expansion to me.

Land-Based Platforms.

The PRC’s land-based nuclear forces primarily consist of ICBMs with different basing modes complimented by several theater-range road-mobile MRBMs and IRBMs. The PRC has approximately 300 ICBMs, including the silo-based CSS-4 Mod 2 (DF- 5A) and Mod 3 (DF-5B) and possibly more recently a CSS-10 class missile (DF-31 class); the solid-fueled, road-mobile CSS-10-class (DF-31 class) with new versions having improved survivability and lethality and CSS-20 (DF-41); and the more limited range roll-out-to-launch CSS-3 (DF-4). The PRC is establishing additional nuclear units and increasing the number of launchers in mobile ICBM units from six to 12. This strategic arsenal is complemented by road-mobile, solid-fueled CSS-5 Mod 2 and Mod 6 (DF-21) MRBMs and DF-26 IRBMs capable of ranging targets in the Indo-Pacific region. The PLA is probably upgrading its existing unitary and MIRVed DF-5 liquid propellant ICBMs.
It is just laughable they estimated only 6 launchers per brigade in previous report and I expected more ICBM launchers in one brigade because there were many rumors about internal expansion and increase number of garages in each newly-built garrison. Perhaps 18 launchers per brigade and ultimately 24 launchers per brigade.
 

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It is just laughable they estimated only 6 launchers per brigade in previous report and I expected more ICBM launchers in one brigade because there were many rumors about internal expansion and increase number of garages in each newly-built garrison. Perhaps 18 launchers per brigade and ultimately 24 launchers per brigade.
Honestly, meh. The numbers in these reports seem to be completely pulled out of the ass so often anyway, as this demonstrates:
Probably dumb to assign too much significance to it, sadly.
 

Kalec

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Honestly, meh. The numbers in these reports seem to be completely pulled out of the ass so often anyway, as this demonstrates:

Probably dumb to assign too much significance to it, sadly.
Tbh pulling out of ass is still a compliment to their work. Muh DF-31 into silo and muh FOBS, also they only count warheads deliverable to CONUS into statistics.

My own expectation is nuclear parity by 2027.
 

Kalec

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Nuclear parity by number of deployed nuclear warheads or total number of nuclear warheads?
No way there will be public figure on nuclear stockpile so I mean to say deployed warheads by counting ICBM throw weight.

50 launchers of DF-41 is not an outrageous estimation. I have a rough calculation here, HMX production rate is at least 1000t/a which is almost uniquely used for NEPE propellant. The propellant consists of 42% HMX so there would be over 2500t/a propellant and we have a gross estimation of propellant mass per DF-41 as 50t. Approximately 50 DF-41 per year as a minimum and minus R&D/reasonable waste.

Taking a conservative estimation here as 50 DF-41 per year, it would be 250 additional launchers with 750 warheads by 2027 and also a conservative guess on 42 additional DF-5B with 210 warheads. And there will be some new SSBNs & ALBMs into service five years later, roughly 40 warheads.

Overall they are 1000 additional warheads plus current 400 warheads estimation, nearly parity with US by the end of 2027.
 

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HMX production rate estimation:

HMX is the most important ingredient in NEPE-75 production and the HMX itself is almost exclusively used in solid propellant & dynamite. So it is a credible indicator on how many propellant CASC can get therefore how many ICBM they can produce upon them.

I have no concrete proof on accurate figure but here is some guess work based on official wechat news or bidding information.

China has only one confirmed HMX production facility, Gansu Yinguang Chemical Industry Group, a subsidiary of NORINCO.
The internal designation for HMX is Product 101, for confidentiality purpose and it is produced in their 4th chemical plant.

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其中,“解决101产品过滤瓶颈问题”党员创新工程项目,产能提升了50%,产生经济效益3000多万元。
The project of "solving the bottleneck problem of 101 products filtration" has increased the production capacity by 50% and generated economic benefits of more than 30 million yuan.

HMX approximately costs 80,000 yuan/t according to a journal, meaning the annual production rate is close to 1125t/a. And the news was written in 2020 where two rounds of production expansion was completed in 2015 and 2018, exactly the same time PLARF reorganized with massive brigade expansion.

However, the production expansion is not over yet.
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化工四厂101生产线新建联合ZJ工房技术升级改造
The 4th chemical plant 101 production line new joint "ZJ" workshop upgrade project.
The new production line has a construction of 2728.88㎡, costs 13 million yuan and scheduled to be completed within 120 days. I would say it will increase production rate by a minimum 50% or even 100%, more than enough propellant for 100 DF-41 per year or 50 heavy solid ICBM.
 

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Regarding the 2022 military report about China's rocket force: tripling of ICBM from 100 last year to 300 this year; confirmation of JL-3; 400 nuclear warheads now and 1,500 by 2035 (an outlandishly underestimate IMHO)
i see, this is an insult of China's industrial prowess.. an outlandishly underestimate

imagine CPC decide to build 1500 warheads. game over

just for the comparison, USSR/USA produced average 10,000 warheads in one decade at the peak of COLD WAR.
 

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Okay.... I find something interesting here. It seems that Base 61 gets a new brigade located in Huangshan.

619 Brigade codename 96719 unit.

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县总工会主席吴壮志率队赴休宁县消防大队和驻休96719部队开展“八一”慰问暨工会“送清凉”活动
Wu Zhuangzhi, chairman of the local trade unions, led a team to unit 96719 to carry out "August 1" condolences and trade union "send cool" activities.
 
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