Assuming ">10,000" is 10,000 on the dot, good ol' CCP Hans.
The distance from Bohai to even Miami is barely over 12,000 km. Yes, it can.
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The distance from Bohai to even Miami is barely over 12,000 km. Yes, it can.
this is the biggest misconception among western experts. they are seriously clueless about China.
JL-2A has over 10,000 KM range. its been long since type 094 upgraded with JL-2A
JL-3 have much more than that. can basically cover entire planet
but clown mentioned that, JL-3 has only 10,000 KM of range . LAMOOO
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And even if 10k+ meant exactly 10k, I don't see the difference. Use silos and TELs for whatever is out of range and use the SLBMs for everything else. TELs driving around the middle of northeast and northwest China in the forest and mountains or central China in tunnels under granite mountains are just as invulnerable as subs.
Do we have a specific figure (or range of figures) on the effective range of the JL-2, JL-2A and JL-3 SLBMs?
He is also using the wrong method of presenting effective target ranges of China's SLBMs. He should use this tool website instead:
JL-2 is basically a submarine launched DF-31, both have a range of 8,000 km when they were approved into design phase in 1984.
IMO DF-31AG is a safe bet for specification of JL-2A, around 11,500 km with only one 650kt warhead. Personally I think the real range will be slight higher than 12,000km, because the design team was awarded for making "the SLBM with longest range" back in 2018.
Understood.
If the JL-2A can be made analogus to DF-31AG as per your example, then would it be wise to do the same for JL-3 with DF-41?
The question is what is the point of a sub that just sits in the SCS or the Bohai sea? That doesn't provide any better of a shooting position than being on land.
Isn't the whole point of subs that they are supposed to roam, for example prowl around in the Gulf of Mexico? That seems like a bigger elephant here than the range. Even if the missile has the range, if it has to travel that far, it is susceptible to being intercepted. A shorter range missile mounted on a sub fired from offshore but nearby is much harder to intercept in time. That provides much stronger deterrent value.
Isn't the whole point of subs that they are supposed to roam, for example prowl around in the Gulf of Mexico? That seems like a bigger elephant here than the range. Even if the missile has the range, if it has to travel that far, it is susceptible to being intercepted. A shorter range missile mounted on a sub fired from offshore but nearby is much harder to intercept in time. That provides much stronger deterrent value.
Sure, but only if those PLAN SSBNs are capable of scurrying into the Gulf of Mexico and/or off the Pacific coastline AND conduct deterrence patrols there for long periods of time without getting detected, tracked and hunted by the USN for the entire duration.
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