China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread

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How credible is this? Seems that if even fighters can be tracked, TELs surely can be too, with enormous implications. E.g. China's TELs would need to all be kept in the underground great wall to be survivable, and Russia's land based force might as well be silo only.
I say probable, what's more it was kind of honestly a question of when and not if.

And yes, the US should also be able to track TELs with the help of AI, just a question of when.
 

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How credible is this? Seems that if even fighters can be tracked, TELs surely can be too, with enormous implications. E.g. China's TELs would need to all be kept in the underground great wall to be survivable, and Russia's land based force might as well be silo only.

Eurasian times is a bad outlet and exaggerates and embellishes.

The correct takeaway is that the use of new software and image recognition technology can help to assist the capability of imaging satellites.

Anything beyond that is irresponsible and stupid.

Especially remarks like "CaN TRaCk F-22s nOw!!11" -- which generates clicks but is invalid, and unnecessary overreach
 

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How credible is this? Seems that if even fighters can be tracked, TELs surely can be too, with enormous implications. E.g. China's TELs would need to all be kept in the underground great wall to be survivable, and Russia's land based force might as well be silo only.
Why do you think each land based ICBM unit in Russia has a Peresvet laser weapon assigned to it? These satellites will be tracked with the space tracking network, like Okno, Krona, and Krona-N, then blinded with Peresvet.
 
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How credible is this? Seems that if even fighters can be tracked, TELs surely can be too, with enormous implications. E.g. China's TELs would need to all be kept in the underground great wall to be survivable, and Russia's land based force might as well be silo only.
the key word is cover.

Russian TELs in Siberian forest have cover.

Planes do not have cover. In fact they fly above all cover. It is easier to detect planes and ships than anything on land.

There's a reason why naval engagements are always in the 10's to 100's of km range but the longest range firepower that can be directed against mobile and concealed ground targets is ~10 km. On the ground, everything has cover by default in forest/mountain/urban areas.
 

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China has made "impressive progress" in developing new nuclear weapons but will only use them for self-defence, and never use them first, Chinese Defence Minister Wei Fenghe told delegates at the Shangri-La Dialogue.

On Sunday, in response to a question about reports last year on the construction of more than 100 new nuclear missile silos in China's east, Mr Wei said China "has always pursued an appropriate path to developing nuclear capabilities for protection of our country".

He added that nuclear weapons displayed in a 2019 military parade in Beijing — including upgraded launchers for China's DF-41 intercontinental ballistic missiles — were operational and deployed.

"China has developed its capabilities for over five decades. It's fair to say there has been impressive progress," he said.

"China's … policy is consistent. We use it for self-defence. We will not be the first to use nuclear [weapons]."

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So is that a confirmation on the existence of silo fields?
 

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How credible is this? Seems that if even fighters can be tracked, TELs surely can be too, with enormous implications. E.g. China's TELs would need to all be kept in the underground great wall to be survivable, and Russia's land based force might as well be silo only.
No. TELs are safe. Satellites with the required resolution would have too low of a field of view. So detection by the use of IR contrast is the feasible solution. Missile launch detection satellites work in the same way too. You can not find TELs with those though. They are not bright enough.
 
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