Then you should drop a dime to the CCDI. If you see something, say something.
China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread
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It is more complicated than that. If you challenge well-connected folks by dropping a dime to the CCDI or police, good luck still being able to pursue whatever careers you are still in. In fact, God knows if someone might knock on your door in the middle of night, and then you find yourself in a hospital bed with a massive medical bill the second day. That's why when I entered college, one of the first unspoken rules student organizations told us was "try to avoid offending well-connected folks if you don't know their backgrounds 尽量不要得罪人，因为你不知道他们的背景." Having Xi and his anti-corruption campaign does not guarantee that well-connected folks will not screw you. All human societies are more complex than simple black and white rules.
Corruption exists in China, not just in the military, but even more predominantly in the civilian society. But it did not seem to have affected negatively China's phenomenal economic growth. If it did, just imagine how much more powerful China would be today.
That reminded me of a popular saying back in the early 2000s among the western expats in SE Asia regarding corruption in China. It could have been a joke. But it would have been at the expense of India and not China. Here it is.
" In China, you pay and they get the job done for you. In India, you pay and they just get out of your way. "
What the saying meant was that corruption existed in China actually improved on the efficiency of the system. But in the other country, corruption slowed you down.
That reminded me of a popular saying back in the early 2000s among the western expats in SE Asia regarding corruption in China. It could have been a joke. But it would have been at the expense of India and not China. Here it is.
" In China, you pay and they get the job done for you. In India, you pay and they just get out of your way. "
What the saying meant was that corruption existed in China actually improved on the efficiency of the system. But in the other country, corruption slowed you down.
There's a difference between general nepotistic advantage like what you described and having witnessed your classmates bribing their way to promotions. Yes, nepotistic advantage exists in every society - I'm quite sure that there are more than a few well-connected people from prominent families at West Point. I'm also quite sure that if someone from a more humble background enrolled at West Point then they would be familiarized with the unspoken rules that certain people shouldn't be offended.
That is a different thing altogether from witnessing or having knowledge of a crime being committed. To be clear, do you have evidence your classmates were paying bribes for promotions or are you just accusing them solely because of their names? You do understand that it's possible to come from a prominent family and still be capable at your job, right?
Just linking the concepts of national survival and annual growth is so ridiculous that I don't see how it could be done in good faith. Could anybody serious imagine a senior PLARF officer going, "Welp, growth was 5.5% this year instead of 6, so I guess we're not going to build the deterrent and just have America do its nuclear blackmail."
Yes, I think it's less about blatant bribery but that having high-ranked parents mean they can tell the children which button to push to accelerate their career. As an analogy, if I am a partner in a major law firm and if my children want to follow my path, I can tell them tips&trick to accelerate their careers and I'll share with them my Rolodex and connections so they know which internship and clerkship to purse, etc.
I seen that as well (from analysts and the likes moreover), and so I believe there definitely is SOME truth to it.
But as it stands, it's also pretty safe to say that while for some time it could have helped, as time goes on it is something that has to be stopped (which seems to have happened)
But thats always how human societies have been. At most we can codify laws and regulations, but as any working person knows, being experienced (or mentored) gives you an advantage over the competition
I personally don't see this as corruption
The US would be a far, far more dangerous foe if it could actually do procurement properly. I predict the US will be increasingly and catastrophically incapable of procuring decent military systems in the coming years and decades due to both ridiculous costs and lack of stringent standards and accountability in MIC development programs to make sure they actually produce good stuff, instead of just accepting whatever junk pops out at the end. HGVs are the latest major instance, they still can't succeed at one and even if they eventually do they can't afford to procure a remotely meaningful number for a WestPac conflict.
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Fully agree.
I did not meant to condone corruption. Just want to get the point across that corruption did not negatively impacted China the way Western MSM tries to make it out to be.
Anyway, I am getting OT. Going to stop here.
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