China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread

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very intelligent move by china since now (shell game or not) the americans will have to modernize their land based icbm force and possibly the anti ballistic missile force, spending trizillions dollars only to maintain actual nuclear superiority to china who invested probably a little amount of money on these silos for now. In Asia many people will think "they will sacrifice new york for manila?"
 
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Bob Smith said:
Those people at FAS keep complaining about China's nuclear arsenal increase but they still haven't been able to make a reasonable argument on why China shouldn't increase their arsenal to the thousands. Also looked through Hans Kristensen's and Jeffrey Lewis' twitter feeds and they rarely mention India despite their massive relative increase as well.
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Agni V was fired first time nearly 10 years ago and it's still not in service and older Agni III is still on work on progress based on their recent night-time launch failure. India has handfull of missiles at best and most are shorter range AGNI II's.

Indians cant have massive increase right now due their delivery system problems.
 
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Temstar said:
Hu Xijing from Global Time last time around specifically wrote
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Of course just because DF-41 is road mobile doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't make sense to also make some of them silo-based, however if we take Hu at his word that leaves the following possibilities:
  • new silos are for more liquid fuel DF-5 (or new variants of)
  • new silos are for some kind of brand new superheavy ICBM (ala RS-28 Sarmat)
  • new silos are for some new upgraded variant of existing solid fuel ICBM
I think rumours of DF-45 is saying this is an upgraded DF-41 specificlly optimised for silo basing?
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Russians deploy Topol-M/RS-24 Yars on both silos and road-mobile.
 
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bajingan said:
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nytimes already picked up the story

From the article

It’s not insane,” he said. “They make the United States target a lot of silos that may be empty. They can fill these silos slowly if they need to build up their force. And they get leverage in arms control.”

“I’m surprised they didn’t do this a decade ago,” he said.

I also wonder why, but better late than never
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They didn’t do this decades ago because of CN inability to buid a reliable EW system. Now, they are having land and space based EW system and are moving to a LOW posture like DoD report said
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Also massive expansion in fissile mat complex and missile fab site...
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antiterror13 said:
the more silos found by the West , the better, even the fake ones ;)
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Empty or faked silos are just nonsense. One big lesson the USSR took from the Cuban Missile Crisis was that it needed strategic parity with the United States in order to achieve real political equality. Small deterrent was not enough. NFU is another "nonsense" policy. Sounds good but really doesn't mean much operationally
 
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* thumps the desk*
//We need more SSBNs and extended range SLBMs. 15 - 20 trillion economy needs protection. 1.4 billion needs deterrence and defence. //


But the silos are nice to have. I'm pretty sure China has the manpower to construct thousands of more silos but the important question is whether the supposed network found at Yumen got underground interconnected web of roads.

Are these silos filled in the open ( subject to reconnaissance sat eyes) or underground? What about the entry and exit tunnels?
 
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