China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread

[Xizor]

First of all, contrary to what most here might think, I do like USA and Americanism very much.
Perhaps folks here might browse at what I got to say about myself and decide that for themselves.
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/i-actually-do-love-usa-very-much.t8634/

I am actually far better known in Internet and Facebook for much more peaceful topics. And those are not on dim sum, wulung tea , General Tso sweet & sour chicken or cleaned laundry.

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USA been sniffing up the radionuclides of all nuke tests, especially done in China by China. Enough to know
3 stage thermonuclear explosions been set off. Those radionuclides that was sniffed up told them the end result, and not the intermediate results that created that Big Bang.

As to how that was done will be guesses same as the formula for CocaCola can be guessed at but not known despite buying a thousand bottles of Coca Cola and drinking and testing them.

It had been said "Now some outside physicists speculate that the Taylor-Uram configuration is a "reflection implosion" and the Yu-sensitive configuration is a "refraction implosion". Both of them aim to convert X-ray into heat energy, but they are different in engineering design." That might well be a wild guess from a wild man.
I admit while I do know English well, I have no clue of what I read which I take as another step in the dark. Like the 5 blind men feeling different parts of elephant, or even think they feeling the elephant , and trying to figure out what is that elephant. I am not even certain if they might be feeling an elephant in the first place.

I do have a feeling top nuke minds in USA and Russia now might have a good guess at the Yu Min configuration. Might even got that down to mathematical model and tested on supercomputer how that worked and worked in the supercomputer.

But adhering to the total test ban on nuclear bomb testing, they not about to make thermonuclear bomb to a design that they had not tested for real and abandon the design that they known for sure will work..

And they are as prepared to write on that as the Chinese themselves.

Most interestingly, USA top nuke makers been in touch and exchange visits with Chinese top nuke makers, and even to having friendly chats with Yu Min himself.
For those without paranoid fear of clicking on URLs, take a look at this as food for your thoughts.

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Thanks for the link. I never knew such a transaction took place between U.S and China. This instills a lot of confidence for me on Chinese nuclear technology. But the configuration... Ahh. Might never know.

 

[shanlung]

For those that doubt and question Yu Min or his configuration is real, here is an interesting snippet to read

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The United States and Russia can only envy:30 hudrogen bomb the
world only and why only to China unique?

Of course, freedom is yours to tar and feather this as non existent fragments of Chinese imaginations
designed to hoodwink gullible westerners.

 

[ougoah]

First of all, contrary to what most here might think, I do like USA and Americanism very much.
Perhaps folks here might browse at what I got to say about myself and decide that for themselves.
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/i-actually-do-love-usa-very-much.t8634/

I am actually far better known in Internet and Facebook for much more peaceful topics. And those are not on dim sum, wulung tea , General Tso sweet & sour chicken or cleaned laundry.

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USA been sniffing up the radionuclides of all nuke tests, especially done in China by China. Enough to know
3 stage thermonuclear explosions been set off. Those radionuclides that was sniffed up told them the end result, and not the intermediate results that created that Big Bang.

As to how that was done will be guesses same as the formula for CocaCola can be guessed at but not known despite buying a thousand bottles of Coca Cola and drinking and testing them.

It had been said "Now some outside physicists speculate that the Taylor-Uram configuration is a "reflection implosion" and the Yu-sensitive configuration is a "refraction implosion". Both of them aim to convert X-ray into heat energy, but they are different in engineering design." That might well be a wild guess from a wild man.
I admit while I do know English well, I have no clue of what I read which I take as another step in the dark. Like the 5 blind men feeling different parts of elephant, or even think they feeling the elephant , and trying to figure out what is that elephant. I am not even certain if they might be feeling an elephant in the first place.

I do have a feeling top nuke minds in USA and Russia now might have a good guess at the Yu Min configuration. Might even got that down to mathematical model and tested on supercomputer how that worked and worked in the supercomputer.

But adhering to the total test ban on nuclear bomb testing, they not about to make thermonuclear bomb to a design that they had not tested for real and abandon the design that they known for sure will work..

And they are as prepared to write on that as the Chinese themselves.

Most interestingly, USA top nuke makers been in touch and exchange visits with Chinese top nuke makers, and even to having friendly chats with Yu Min himself.
For those without paranoid fear of clicking on URLs, take a look at this as food for your thoughts.

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Quite a good read. A shame China assisted Pakistan with nuclear weapons. The read seems like China was almost entirely responsible for Pakistan's nuclear arsenal. This policy may have made sense back in the 80s but honestly it's a blunder to introduce such a source of instability in the region while giving Indians more reason for negative sentiments toward China. As an ally, China could simply guarantee Pakistan protection from Indian nuclear attacks like the US does with Japan.

 

[styx]

Found on gunther's space page: df-31c? An icbm with a marv?

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[Biscuits]

Quite a good read. A shame China assisted Pakistan with nuclear weapons. The read seems like China was almost entirely responsible for Pakistan's nuclear arsenal. This policy may have made sense back in the 80s but honestly it's a blunder to introduce such a source of instability in the region while giving Indians more reason for negative sentiments toward China. As an ally, China could simply guarantee Pakistan protection from Indian nuclear attacks like the US does with Japan.

I’m not sure how truthful those speculations are.

For once, most (all?) of China’s warheads are thermonuclear, not fission/tactical nuke devices like Pakistan’s.

China could have reinvented a device for Pakistan, but that would be risky and difficult compared to simply taking it under it’s nuclear umbrella.

Obviously China knew about and didn’t sabotage Pakistan’s nuclear ambition, but it seems unlikely they received assistance.

It’s quite likely (almost certain) that China helped Pakistan make it’s nukes into safe devices once Pakistan had demonstrated nuclear capability, but it’s a leap to say China helped them with anything before that.

 

[Hyperwarp]

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Found on gunther's space page: df-31c? An icbm with a marv?

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That's either DF-21C/D or DF-26.

 

[ougoah]

I’m not sure how truthful those speculations are.

For once, most (all?) of China’s warheads are thermonuclear, not fission/tactical nuke devices like Pakistan’s.

China could have reinvented a device for Pakistan, but that would be risky and difficult compared to simply taking it under it’s nuclear umbrella.

Obviously China knew about and didn’t sabotage Pakistan’s nuclear ambition, but it seems unlikely they received assistance.

It’s quite likely (almost certain) that China helped Pakistan make it’s nukes into safe devices once Pakistan had demonstrated nuclear capability, but it’s a leap to say China helped them with anything before that.

The article makes it seem like China basically helped Pakistan with their first fission weapon comprehensively. Of course whether this is true or not is hard to say but if it was something China was behind, it would have been a policy choice from the 80s and today's China wouldn't help North Korea or Iran let alone Pakistan. Ally or not, there would have been no need to introduce more nuclear powers, especially non-secular states. Pakistan do not share common enemies with China at all. India is not exactly an enemy state and does not threaten China with nuclear annihilation unlike the US has in the past. So in a situation where China goes to war, it would be unlikely to find any assistance from Pakistan.

I could understand if the deal was such that in a situation where China is attacked by regional nuclear powers, Pakistan will retaliate as well. This just isn't the case for anyone except India who isn't threatening anyone with nukes. Their people and media talk big but their leaders are not that unstable. Adding nukes to the Pakistan India equation created a big scare back in the 90s and continues to be a source of worry for the entire region. Both nations will gradually increase their reach and already cover China. Add some unstable religious leaders who buy into the propaganda and kiss that "iron brother" bullshit goodbye.

 

[shanlung]

Found on gunther's space page: df-31c? An icbm with a marv?

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There is a strong possibility that those are MARVED. To maximise the chances of your brave sailors you send against China in Carriers on phony FONOPs will remain forever young.

Do take a look at this video of DF26. On top of those 300++ numbers of DFs, DF26 appeared to be MARVED as well.

And for all you guess, DF21Ds might well be MARVED as well. But might be figment of fertile imagination of creator of that video.
Your guess as good as mine.

And even if not MARVED, there are still 300++ of them. You hope, or think, everyone of them will miss?

So please be peaceful and respectful and more courtesy, and no more phony FONOPs and playing games of who will blink with China with phony FONOPs.
Do not play with fire regarding Taiwan.

I will not even talk of the 3000++ Mach 3s YJ12s YJ18s , and the recently revealed Mach 10 DF100s as these are not ballistic missiles and other threads exist for them.

 

[Xizor]

There is a strong possibility that those are MARVED. To maximise the chances of your brave sailors you send against China in Carriers on phony FONOPs will remain forever young.

Do take a look at this video of DF26. On top of those 300++ numbers of DFs, DF26 appeared to be MARVED as well.

And for all you guess, DF21Ds might well be MARVED as well. But might be figment of fertile imagination of creator of that video.
Your guess as good as mine.

And even if not MARVED, there are still 300++ of them. You hope, or think, everyone of them will miss?

So please be peaceful and respectful and more courtesy, and no more phony FONOPs and playing games of who will blink with China with phony FONOPs.
Do not play with fire regarding Taiwan.

I will not even talk of the 3000++ Mach 3s YJ12s YJ18s , and the recently revealed Mach 10 DF100s as these are not ballistic missiles and other threads exist for them.

I didn't know this website was an official communication channel for the White house. I always knew that this website could be a very handy OSINT asset but hey...the more you know.
U.S can continue with their FONOPES or whatever. It is up to china to change FONOPS into Fcking Nopes! - and the only thing China can do in a peaceful and non-violent way is to continue to grow more powerful and rich. No use delivering hollow warnings. It is like shouting at a wall, with your pants down nonetheless.

 

[by78]

High-resolution magazine scans from the parade.