Chengdu next gen combat aircraft (?J-36) thread

[talonn]

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What? No anti gravity , teleportation, plasma cannon? Disappointing pffttt

 

[siegecrossbow]

In his latest talk show Yankee claims that the chief designer on J-36 read his article and really liked it.

In the latest talkshow Yankee says:

1) J-36 will not be a Mach 3 capable aircraft.
2) Yankeesama has talked briefly with J-36 Chief Designer Wang Haifeng.
3) Chief Designer care not much about hard specs such as top speed, max thrust, etc. The important criteria of the fighter is instead power generation capability.
4) J-36 can serve as EW and AWAC to some capacity.
5) No pulsed detonation engine or ramjet on J-36. They can’t provide enough power to even existing fighter aircraft avionics, let alone something as sophisticated as CHAD.
6) Engine design no longer focuses on thrust alone. What’s more important is subsystem for power generation under whole flight envelope. Power regulation system is therefore of foremost importance. An example would be NEV vs ICE or F-15 vs MiG-25.
7) Variable cycle engine will conform to J-36’s design.
8) Yankee once again agrees with SDF assessment that the J-36 is not a simple fighter, fighter bomber, bomber, etc. but a new system altogether. It is more akin to an air based cruiser.

Will post the link when it is up on bilibili.

 

[sunnymaxi]

In the latest talkshow Yankee says:

1) J-36 will not be a Mach 3 capable aircraft.
2) Yankeesama has talked briefly with J-36 Chief Designer Wang Haifeng.
3) Chief Designer care not much about hard specs such as top speed, max thrust, etc. The important criteria of the fighter is instead power generation capability.
4) J-36 can serve as EW and AWAC to some capacity.
5) No pulsed detonation engine or ramjet on J-36. They can’t provide enough power to even existing fighter aircraft avionics, let alone something as sophisticated as CHAD.
6) Engine design no longer focuses on thrust alone. What’s more important is subsystem for power generation under whole flight envelope. Power regulation system is therefore of foremost importance. An example would be NEV vs ICE or F-15 vs MiG-25.
7) Variable cycle engine will conform to J-36’s design.
8) Yankee once again agrees with SDF assessment that the J-36 is not a simple fighter, fighter bomber, bomber, etc. but a new system altogether. It is more akin to an air based cruiser.

Will post the link when it is up on bilibili.

very happy to see, Chief designer itself confirmed Variable cycle engine will be the designated Engine for J-36 ..

 

[sequ]

Yankeesama has talked briefly with J-36 Chief Designer Wang Haifeng.

How come he has this privilege? Is Haifeng his dad?

 

[siegecrossbow]

How come he has this privilege? Is it his dad?

Nope. He is a pretty big military influencer and met Wang Haifeng through a mutual friend. It was only very brief talk.

 

[Xiongmao]

very happy to see, Chief designer itself confirmed Variable cycle engine will be the designated Engine for J-36 ..

What is the name of this vce engine? If it's a new design could that take best part of a decade to come out?

 

[siegecrossbow]

What is the name of this vce engine? If it's a new design could that take best part of a decade to come out?

It will be much faster than that. They completely overhauled the engineering process during WS-15 development process so they won’t fall into the same traps the second time around.

 

[Biscuits]

In the latest talkshow Yankee says:

1) J-36 will not be a Mach 3 capable aircraft.
2) Yankeesama has talked briefly with J-36 Chief Designer Wang Haifeng.
3) Chief Designer care not much about hard specs such as top speed, max thrust, etc. The important criteria of the fighter is instead power generation capability.
4) J-36 can serve as EW and AWAC to some capacity.
5) No pulsed detonation engine or ramjet on J-36. They can’t provide enough power to even existing fighter aircraft avionics, let alone something as sophisticated as CHAD.
6) Engine design no longer focuses on thrust alone. What’s more important is subsystem for power generation under whole flight envelope. Power regulation system is therefore of foremost importance. An example would be NEV vs ICE or F-15 vs MiG-25.
7) Variable cycle engine will conform to J-36’s design.
8) Yankee once again agrees with SDF assessment that the J-36 is not a simple fighter, fighter bomber, bomber, etc. but a new system altogether. It is more akin to an air based cruiser.

Will post the link when it is up on bilibili.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the idea of an AWACS that can be anywhere and quickly reposition while remaining unspotted is revolutionary for air warfare.

 

[sunnymaxi]

What is the name of this vce engine? If it's a new design could that take best part of a decade to come out?

all related Technologies and Material successfully developed for next generation Engine confirmed by Liu Daxiang, member of Chinese academy of Engineering and father of China's turbofan Engine industry back in 2022..

most probably WS-XX has entered in prototype phase. it won't take much time as China conquered the engineering process of Turbofan Engines.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the idea of an AWACS that can be anywhere and quickly reposition while remaining unspotted is revolutionary for air warfare.

Not just an AWAC. It is a J-16D + KJ-500 + J-20 with all aspect stealth against wide radar spectrum, long range + loitering ability, high supersonic performance + supercruise, and large weapons load for a variety of missions. Very difficult to understate the importance of this bird.