Chengdu next gen combat aircraft (?J-36) thread

plawolf

Lieutenant General
crazy idea that I've seen here (apologize that I can't find it, credit where credit is due, I did not come up with this):

What about rocket assisted takeoff/delivery of air breathing drones?

I can imagine that a rocket can boost a jet powered, air breathing drone to maybe 50k meters, at which point it can unfold wings, start unpowered gliding towards a set point, start engines on the way, and establish datalink with the J-36.

That means that the J-36 can start ahead, and have its combat wing catch up with it via rocket launch.

You have it backwards. The UAV element won’t be racing to keep up with the CHAD, instead you will have layers of slower, conventional UAVs and UCAVs basically permanently forward deployed to form a vast sensor net over the pacific with in-built anti-air, anti-surface and anti-sub surface components, giving China the strategic depth and time needed to safeguard its coastal industrial and population centres from any hostile attack.

The CHADs’ role will be multifaceted, but simplified, they are the spiders in the web, acting as first responders to direct the UCAVs swarms to best deal with targets and threats as they are detected.

At the same time, they will have the sensors, range and speed to quickly respond to probes and attacks by enemy premier assets that might bypass or overwhelm the tripwire UAC elements, with the raw performance to either dominate even numerically superior top tier foes they encounter, or disengage safely if the odds seem unfavourable and await reinforcements while delaying and distracting the enemy in the interim.

Offensively, they will perform a similar role. Acting as forward controllers to direct the drone swarms in offensive operations while also serving as QRF to respond to unexpectedly strong pockets of resistance that other threaten core mission objectives.

As an additional dimension, their high speed, high ceiling and large weapons bays also make them potentially pivotal BMD assets that can engage incoming ballistic missiles during the assent and cruise stages.

The CHAD represent a major milestone and paradigm shift within the PLA grand strategy, where the PLA is now no longer principally focused on merely the winning the fight for Taiwan with the USA, but now moving on to ensuring that China can win such a fight with minimal damage to both its military and industrial base.
 

taxiya

Brigadier
Registered Member
It’s ridiculous that B-21 can be considered sixth gen but J-36 cannot when the former is designed from the ground up to be a bomber.
Personally I don't give a damn of the gen number. China used to call J-20 4th gen, this new aircrafts would be 5th gen in China's terminology. It was the US trying to win a size contest with USSR that they added 1 to their number. They can call B-21 600th gen if they like, that doesn't change a thing of what it really is. I think China and PLA particularly should stick to their own naming scheme and stay away from the "size contest". That way China would be telling the world "I make the rule", instead of China to "与世界接轨" (get inline with the world), "世界应该与中国接轨" (world should get inline with China).
 

FairAndUnbiased

Brigadier
Registered Member
You have it backwards. The UAV element won’t be racing to keep up with the CHAD, instead you will have layers of slower, conventional UAVs and UCAVs basically permanently forward deployed to form a vast sensor net over the pacific with in-built anti-air, anti-surface and anti-sub surface components, giving China the strategic depth and time needed to safeguard its coastal industrial and population centres from any hostile attack.

The CHADs’ role will be multifaceted, but simplified, they are the spiders in the web, acting as first responders to direct the UCAVs swarms to best deal with targets and threats as they are detected.

At the same time, they will have the sensors, range and speed to quickly respond to probes and attacks by enemy premier assets that might bypass or overwhelm the tripwire UAC elements, with the raw performance to either dominate even numerically superior top tier foes they encounter, or disengage safely if the odds seem unfavourable and await reinforcements while delaying and distracting the enemy in the interim.

Offensively, they will perform a similar role. Acting as forward controllers to direct the drone swarms in offensive operations while also serving as QRF to respond to unexpectedly strong pockets of resistance that other threaten core mission objectives.

As an additional dimension, their high speed, high ceiling and large weapons bays also make them potentially pivotal BMD assets that can engage incoming ballistic missiles during the assent and cruise stages.

The CHAD represent a major milestone and paradigm shift within the PLA grand strategy, where the PLA is now no longer principally focused on merely the winning the fight for Taiwan with the USA, but now moving on to ensuring that China can win such a fight with minimal damage to both its military and industrial base.

Why not both? In some situations, you can forward deploy UAVs. In others, you need a local director, at which point you launch supercruise capable CHAD and if you need more assets in theater you rocket boost them into position within 20 minutes.

I believe we can even think of CHAD as eventually taking on the role of an airborne general that commands UAV troops. In such a situation, rocket boosted takeoff UAVs are like airdropped reinforcements.
 

sequ

Major
Registered Member

Chinese Sixth Generation Fighter REVEALED​


Ward Carrol is a retired F-14 Tomcat RIO.Radar Intercept Officer. There is flight footage in the video.

"As you can hear in the videos they're loud you probably don't want to buy a house around any of the airfields where these airplanes will be operating in"

LMAO poor coping boomer. If only he knew what I would give to be living near such an airfield no matter which country it is.
 
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