Chengdu next gen combat aircraft (?J-36) thread

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phrozenflame said:
Probably waiting to troll USN 6th gen.
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Generally what would be the impact of many control surfaces, with the gaps in between seen at back if the wings Whats usually done to mitigate these? Thabks
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Considering the fact that they went as far as making flexible skin hinges for the control surfaces I’m sure they have some mitigation measure in place. Ideally you don’t want too many control surfaces, but better in the rear than in the front.

That said do we know if CHAD has leading edge slats? If not then they probably did sacrifice high AOA capabilities.
 
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Jaym said:
probably everything that flies is multirole... but everybody needs a label accurate or not....
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Why bother with giving something a label if it’s inaccurate?
j-36 is prolly meant more as an air superiority fighter but im almost sure it can function as a medium bomber...
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Good, we’re finally getting somewhere. Yes it likely can function as a sort of bomber (carrying air to surface weaponry and attacking ground and sea targets to some capacity), but that is one of its many, many uses and not its sole (or even primary) purpose
i also think its meant for taiwan...
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With all due respect, a military conflict with Taiwan doesn’t warrant developing a 6th gen fighter for, they’re going to get fucked hard enough as is. No this is most likely for A2AD against US primarily in the Eastern and Southern China Sea. Of course once in production it’ll pop up all over the country in various theaters but that’s what it’s most likely designed for.
and in order to invade they will need to find and bomb its extensive anti air weapons which are probably in big buildings.
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So you’re suggesting that they use bombs instead of dedicated anti-radiation missiles or air launched cruise missiles to combat SAM sites. Also the SAM sites are in big buildings instead of, I don’t know, a clearing or a field where the missiles can actually be set up and have the space to operate. Interesting take.
 
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The first image is especially nice and gives a good look at the dorsal side. It's too blurry to tell for sure, but the cockpit appears fairly wide.

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Schwerter_ said:
Why bother with giving something a label if it’s inaccurate?

Good, we’re finally getting somewhere. Yes it likely can function as a sort of bomber (carrying air to surface weaponry and attacking ground and sea targets to some capacity), but that is one of its many, many uses and not its sole (or even primary) purpose

With all due respect, a military conflict with Taiwan doesn’t warrant developing a 6th gen fighter for, they’re going to get fucked hard enough as is. No this is most likely for A2AD against US primarily in the Eastern and Southern China Sea. Of course once in production it’ll pop up all over the country in various theaters but that’s what it’s most likely designed for.

So you’re suggesting that they use bombs instead of dedicated anti-radiation missiles or air launched cruise missiles to combat SAM sites. Also the SAM sites are in big buildings instead of, I don’t know, a clearing or a field where the missiles can actually be set up and have the space to operate. Interesting take.
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a2ad = air 2 air denial? i wouldnt be surprised if it could be air 2 sea denial also as a ship bomber.
 
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Jaym said:
I dont think big powers will ever fight each other directly anymore... also i bet you will need stealth bombers of some sort for a taiwan invasion
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Both valid points, however to not actually fight with a superpower you kinda have to be equipped to do so, such is the sad way of geopolitics and regional military power balance.

As for having a stealth bomber for a conflict with Taiwan, that’ll most certainly be helpful but the J-36 isn’t necessarily the only (or even best?) option for it. J-35A is already in service and has multirole capability and can comfortably take on the job of eliminating high-value ground targets, J20 may also be able to (we don’t know though). J36, if in service, certainly can and probably will be used in such missions if the need arises and there are no other missions of higher importance for it to carry out, for example combat patrols east of Taiwan in case a B-1B with like 2 dozen LRASMs start getting funny ideas sitting on the runway of Guam or god forbid Kadena

Jaym said:
a2ad = air 2 air denial? i wouldnt be surprised if it could be air 2 sea denial also as a ship bomber.
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Anti-Access/Area Denial, basically to stop adversaries coming into your area of operations so that your troops and units can carry out their missions uninterrupted. I mean yeah I wouldn’t be surprised either but again anti-ship would be one of its many roles, for actual heavy-duty anti-ship missions (i.e. busting a CSG instead of a lone Burke or Mogami) they’ll probably bust out the H-6K or N that can carry ASBMs and have much larger combat radii

Now before we derail this thread further let’s probably stop talking about Taiwan
 
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It's possible a future version of this jet (J-36A or J-36B) might be a single seater; once AI-tech has advanced far enough to assist in co-piloting/drone control. A single seater will radically alter the shape of the front and cockpit canopy; maybe the hump behind as well.

This is too far ahead to ponder but I couldn't help myself.
 
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