Chengdu next gen combat aircraft (?J-36) thread

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stoa1984 said:
Not sure whether it has been already posted, as @stoa1984 correctly predicted before, here the first video (artistic view) confirming the presence of DEW, and in action in both anti-missile and anti-air combat!

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DEW in action.


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Can you avoid memeing in the flagship threads please.
 
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Discussion continued in this thread from the F/A-XX and F-XX to avoid derailing the original thread.

Neurosmith said:
We also don't know if the J-50 and J-36 prototypes are indeed prototypes or X-planes.
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Speaking of which - Both the 10000-year Emperor and the Adorable Whale have indicated that the "36011" J-36 is already an EMD-stage aircraft:

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From the former:
So it's completely humorous for Trump to claim that this (the F-47) already took flight 5 years ago... (In reality), it was the X-plane series (of technological demonstration and verification aircrafts). Yet, there isn't any aircraft which is equivalent to the YF(-22) of 2001, and now the US military (USAF) announced that the first flight of the EMD-aircraft (of the F-47) will be done within 4 years? Does the US dare to claim that their progress is faster than China's?
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From the latter:
According to the official statement of the USAF, NGAD's X-plane (technological demonstration and verification) aircraft has already made its first flight in 2020, and continued to fly for 100s of hours in top secrecy, and now Trump came up with a diagram of the airplane.
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But the large-sized "36011" painted on the J-36 is to tell you Americans that (the J-36 which took flight in December last year) is "011" and not "001". Obviously, ours is not the X-plane, and isn't the same as the "2001" J-20 back in 2011. The degree of completion (of the J-36) is certainly higher than when we developed the J-20 (back then), so it (the J-36) should be benchmarked against the F-47 and not the XF or YF-47. The X-plane (technological and verification) aircraft does not need to be in full-size to verify the aerodynamic layout, control rate, and so on, as money has to be spent thriftily.
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Again, discussion continued here to avoid derailing the original thread.

ACuriousPLAFan said:
So it was the X-planes that flew for 100s of hours, not the F-47 prototype itself.

In that case, I don't see how that's any different from China's case with the J-20S + That delta-winged aircraft seen at Chengdu in 2021/2022 + Another delta-winged aircraft seen at Shenyang just last December (plus some other still unknown aircrafts) - All of which have been acting as the J-36's and J-XDS' X-planes for the past few years.

A tight service induction race between the J-36 + J-XDS versus the F-47 indeed.
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Technically speaking, all of the following can be seen as (or indicative of) China's X-planes for the J-36 (and also the J-XDS), amongst some others that haven't been spotted/publicized:

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