Chengdu next gen combat aircraft (?J-36) thread
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These photos of the J-36's first flight are said to have been posted for the first time yesterday. Posted by @三叔的装备空间 on Weibo.
Cute Orca also pointed out that these photos of the J-36 and J-20S flying together that are viewed from different angles indicate that the length of the J-36 is basically/largely the same as the J-20.
Cute Orca also pointed out that these photos of the J-36 and J-20S flying together that are viewed from different angles indicate that the length of the J-36 is basically/largely the same as the J-20.
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Indeed. All those +23m estimates are wrong.
Lengthwise it is about a meter longer. Width and girth is much bigger.
Has this been posted before?
CAC released a variable diamond inlet design for stealth aircraft in 2023. The design considered both low and high Mach numbers.
The pics below show how inlet structure adjusts according to different Mach numbers. Column A for high Mach (高马赫数), column B for low Mach (低马赫数).
CAC released a variable diamond inlet design for stealth aircraft in 2023. The design considered both low and high Mach numbers.
The pics below show how inlet structure adjusts according to different Mach numbers. Column A for high Mach (高马赫数), column B for low Mach (低马赫数).
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Sometime i fell like we are getting too much from opensource channel, Not complain tho.
I know is likely the real one would be quite different from the patent. But Come on, it just out there under the daylight.
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The paper is about canopy design for Chinese 4th-gen (i.e. Western 5th-gen fighters), basically J-20 or J-35. It has nothing to do with the new birds out of CAC and SAC.
Curiously, while Cute Orca is rather cautious/reserved on his views on the Chinese military aircraft engines, he's unusually optimistic (or based on my viewpoint) regarding this:
Do NOTE the bolded and underlined phrase "my personal guess" (个人猜测).
Perhaps the registration number we saw on the J-36 during its first flight (36011 instead of 36001) could be indicative of the aircraft being a more advanced demonstrator/prototype than previous expectations, which may have been a factor in such a deduction.
Though, I think I'd be more inclined to believe that the J-36 would join the test and evaluation squadron/brigade by 2029/2030, and combat squadron/brigades by 2031/2032.
As a side note: The J-XDS wouldn't be far off the J-36, IMHO. The carrier-based variant might add 2-5 years, unless it is also developed and tested concurrently with the land-based counterpart.
Do NOTE the bolded and underlined phrase "my personal guess" (个人猜测).
Perhaps the registration number we saw on the J-36 during its first flight (36011 instead of 36001) could be indicative of the aircraft being a more advanced demonstrator/prototype than previous expectations, which may have been a factor in such a deduction.
Though, I think I'd be more inclined to believe that the J-36 would join the test and evaluation squadron/brigade by 2029/2030, and combat squadron/brigades by 2031/2032.
As a side note: The J-XDS wouldn't be far off the J-36, IMHO. The carrier-based variant might add 2-5 years, unless it is also developed and tested concurrently with the land-based counterpart.
China's tradition is to operate & develop a new aircraft simultaneously. The idea is, without operation, you can't get real/enough advice to fully develop & upgrade. There are also real benefits to boost air force capacity, confidence and accumulate operation & flying experience.
Like J20, LRIP with AL-31F initially (2011~2019), latter with WS-10C (2019~2023), finally variant A with WS-15 (after 2023). But J20 entered service in 2017, just 6 years after its maiden flight.
Many things may happen much earlier than we used to believe. If we take No.36011 as mature as J20's No.2011 prototype (2014), then there are only 3 years before we see J36 enters service. If that's the case, J36 then may just be equipped with 3 WS-15 (may slightly modified to suit higher trust & altitude), better sensors and are stealthier compared to existing 5th gen fighters. More of a 5++ gen aircraft. The full version of J36 may appear years after service.
Like J20, LRIP with AL-31F initially (2011~2019), latter with WS-10C (2019~2023), finally variant A with WS-15 (after 2023). But J20 entered service in 2017, just 6 years after its maiden flight.
Many things may happen much earlier than we used to believe. If we take No.36011 as mature as J20's No.2011 prototype (2014), then there are only 3 years before we see J36 enters service. If that's the case, J36 then may just be equipped with 3 WS-15 (may slightly modified to suit higher trust & altitude), better sensors and are stealthier compared to existing 5th gen fighters. More of a 5++ gen aircraft. The full version of J36 may appear years after service.
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