I checked this guy’s profile and he is posting on GenZedong. Needless to say I would be extremely surprised if someone rather involved with the US MIC is posting on there
Chengdu next gen combat aircraft (?J-36) thread
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I checked this guy’s profile and he is posting on GenZedong. Needless to say I would be extremely surprised if someone rather involved with the US MIC is posting on there
You should be surprised. Lots of Gen Z and Millennials are pretty black pilled, even (actually especially) the dudes in the military bureaucracy.
I don't think it is possible to simply retrofit the B-21 with a fire-control radar for aerial engagements without major structual alterations (pretty much redesigning the entire front end and reevaluating it's stealth profile). Unlike the J-36 which has a prominent nosecone that can hold a radar, the Raider's nose is.. well, see for yourself,
the obvious way is to reuse the j36 airframe, remove the cockpit/avionics/IWB, and turn it into a tanker - benefits include reusing maintenance infra as j36, reducing j36 design effort, large fuel capacity (maybe even close to 30ton), and probably cost less than half vs. j36
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Probably a clean-sheet stealthy dedicated refueling UAV would be better overall IMO instead of re-engineering J-36 into it.
Frankly, I'd be surprised if something already isnt in the works.
We will likely see alot of platforms and munitions pop up over the next few years that will make up the eco-system of the 6th gen PLAAF.
Just thinking -I don't think China would "telegraph their punch" so to speak about the J36/Shengad if it weren't already well past mere tech demonstrator and kick start the US NGAD where they can threaten /dominate our bad bluff(shades of Boxers demonstrating to Empress Cuxi with blanks that the evil Westerners and their rifles.modern weapons can be defeated.......the disgraceful outcome was infamous,painful.expensive in blood,treasure and reputation)This is NOT an accusation -just a smallest apprehension as this magnificent achievement of the J36 /Shengad has literally and figuratively been a "shot across the bow" to the west/world.And China should be very awrae/prepared for response-in all forms.Just thinking
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This is very interesting and informative. I am aware of the decreased sidelobe effectiveness but I didn't know what a reasonable sidelobe gain would be for TPY-2 which is why I calculated the power density.
In David Adamy's equation, combining terms related to the jammer we have -Pj-Gj-Grj+20log(Dj)+J/S. Putting in the values I got a -4.84dB, 10^(-4.84/40)=0.756, so a 24.4% reduction in range? It seems that some the very low Grj plays a big part here.
Also, how does your calculated 210km range reconcile with THAAD's claimed detection range of many thousands of kms. Are the thousands of km range measured against >>0dbsm targets? My understanding of BMD radars is that they take advantage of the very low background noise level from objects in space to achieve their detection range. Would this make them more vulnerable to increased noise from jamming?
antwerpery
Thursday at 5:46 PM
The J36 will be at the center of China's combat web and will only be used in large scale conflicts. In a large scale conflict, it's gonna to be surrounded by hundreds of other aircraft and probably personally always be escorted by a squadron of drones. Kinda like a carrier strike group. Asking why it can't dogfight is like asking why an aircraft carrier doesn't have anti-submarine and anti-missile capabilities like a destroyer or frigate.
kurutoga
Yesterday at 12:43 AM
US has the lead in low orbit constellation: Starlink
Stoa1984's Commentary
Again, if one uses the tea set analogy, it would be accurate to compare the J-36 stealth fighter to one of the many teacups while the core central asset would be the orbital DEW WMD array, made of a mix of dual-use civilian-military Starlink/Bluebird-type platform comprising Guowang/GW60 and more Proliferated Low Earth Orbit (pLEO) megaconstellations.
It would be utterly futile to discuss any future hypothetical conflict scenario while totally overlooking this most powerful asset.
And as a matter of fact, this orbital DEW WMD array would not only be able to prosecute a war but conclude it with a decisive victory within a few minutes after start. As long as the PLA doesn't fight the only other superpower, that is the U.S.
Indeed, what one needs to understand is that the first ~30'000 Guowang/GW60 satellites will be followed in the second and third phases by even more capable platforms.
Here the analogy with the documented U.S. space program:
Phased arrays comparison of Globalstar Gen2, Iridium-NEXT, Starlink Gen 2, Bluebird Block 1 and Bluebird Block 2.
• Globalstar Gen2: 1.4m x 1.4m Phased Array
• Iridium-NEXT: 2m x 2m Phased Array
• Starlink Gen 2: 2.7m x 2.3m Phased Array
• Bluebird Block 1: 8m x 8m Phased Array
• Bluebird Block 2: 15m x 15m Phased Array
This indicates that SpaceX will soon upgrade its fleet of 42'000 satellites to the next Starlink Gen 3 with 8m x 8m Phased Array antennas. And ultimately to the still undisclosed Starlink Gen 4 (?) with 15m x 15m Phased Array antennas although in a more limited numbers (60 Bluebird Block 2 announced by AST SpaceMobile so far).
The size of these Bluebird Block 2 with 15m x 15m Phased Array antennas will be comparable to the Cold War early warning radar PAVE PAWS (PAVE Phased Array Warning System). The peak transmitted power of PAVE PAWS were rated at 580 kW.
Add to this as the teapot, the future Chinese space solar power station (SSPS-OMEGA), able to steer MW level microwave beams on ground targets.
