Burning Tankers, the Strait of Hormuz situation 6/2019

TerraN_EmpirE said:

Again you are assuming that it wasn’t. The angles don’t work for a shell and RPG is to small.
To high above the waterline for a torpedo or submarine mine.
The photos of the holes and of the removal of an object from the hull favor Limpet. In fact if you bother to look at photos of the hull and watch the video you should not that the holes are conveniently placed for those planting it from a small boat.

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localizer said:

global hawk shot down, i guess we have to go to war now

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The Pentagon is walking a "fine line" focusing on defense and deterrence and keeping anti-Iran political rhetoric out of the internal high-level discussions, a senior US official said.

General Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, continued to point out in internal discussions that what to do about Iran is a policy question, the official said. If the policy is a military response, then Dunford is prepared to explain in detail the cost of doing that in every discussion.

The bottom line: The fine line is defend and deter without tipping over into provocation — which is why you see limited numbers of forces going for now.

The official said the military view is this:

• If you want to really stop Iran’s nuclear program, that immediately gets you to regime change, which is an enormous undertaking.
• If you want to respond with a single strike to any particular Iranian provocation, you cannot predict how Iran might react and it still risks leading you to war.

National security adviser John Bolton and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo have both been briefed in detail on military options for Iran, including how many forces and how long it takes to get them there, the source said. Pompeo was recently told in detail what it would take to go to war against Iran.

A senior White House official told CNN that prior to today, the attacks have been not aimed at US, but “now that changes since it is our stuff...It is a clear escalation."

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TerraN_EmpirE said:

And to you the same.
Your claims are based on the predict that the US must be lying. That the forensics released so far are fakes and a single early report must be taken as absolute.

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Jura said:

(25°59'43"N 57°02'25"E)

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