And because China support Pakistan. It's just like America supporting Taiwan Independence. How could they be ally with China?
BRICS & New World Order Thread
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Which happened first, Indian invasion of China or Pakistan align China? And how India still refuse to settle dispute is their own doing. Starting shit they cannot finish is classic Indian. Blame others for what they started is extremely Indian. Like what you are doing this instance.
The rule in geopolitics is never backing down and never admitting your mistakes. I am not blaming China or anything. China supporting Pakistan is logical from China's point of view and India not supporting China is also logical from their point of view. You cannot discuss geopolitics without consider other interests. Otherwise you can only resort on ad hominem, which you just did.
India picking getting ass kicked prior to China support Pakistan is not logical no matter how you spin it.
Speaking of what being Indian is like, you listed the third point. "never backing down and never admitting your mistakes. "
And I don't mean admit in public, they cannot quietly admit to themselves either.
So far we have:
- Starting shit they cannot finish.
- Blame others for what they started.
- Never backing down and never admitting mistakes.
- (Repeat 1 because of 3)
It's not like the United States hasn't allied with Pakistan. The Pakistan factor does count but it isn't decisive.
So, why does such hostility emanate from India?
1. Indians elites are westernized - Major icons of Indian independence were English educated. Nehru studies in Harrow and Cambridge. Indian deep state, which is the Indian bureacracy too have strong personal interests in the west. Western education and exposure then results in adoption of western ideas.
2. Surge of the Right - Indians see the red flag with yellow stars and their brain explode. There is hate and only hate for the communists. Days of Indian socialism are over, the country is wholly consumed by the dominant ideology of the day. (Heck, even the Indian socialists too talk like capitalists and have reserved hatred for cpuntries like China)
3. Aggressive Nationalist agenda - The ruling party has pushed forward with a Nationalist campaign. The consequences of this are quite visible on the digital space and I am sure everyone here has encountered this.
These three things guide Indian discourse with other nations and people around the world. The UNSC seat, support for Israel, the 'Chinese numbers are fake', etc., all BS is based on any one of these factors.
Now is there any chance that the Indian state realigns with foreign policy? Yes, the failure to draw investments from China has hurt Indian businesses, and they are quietly lobbying the state to change it's stance on Chinese investments. The economic factor will have tremendous influence on India-China relationship. No matter who, countries around the world just can't thrive by just ignoring China and Chinese money.
So, why does such hostility emanate from India?
1. Indians elites are westernized - Major icons of Indian independence were English educated. Nehru studies in Harrow and Cambridge. Indian deep state, which is the Indian bureacracy too have strong personal interests in the west. Western education and exposure then results in adoption of western ideas.
2. Surge of the Right - Indians see the red flag with yellow stars and their brain explode. There is hate and only hate for the communists. Days of Indian socialism are over, the country is wholly consumed by the dominant ideology of the day. (Heck, even the Indian socialists too talk like capitalists and have reserved hatred for cpuntries like China)
3. Aggressive Nationalist agenda - The ruling party has pushed forward with a Nationalist campaign. The consequences of this are quite visible on the digital space and I am sure everyone here has encountered this.
These three things guide Indian discourse with other nations and people around the world. The UNSC seat, support for Israel, the 'Chinese numbers are fake', etc., all BS is based on any one of these factors.
Now is there any chance that the Indian state realigns with foreign policy? Yes, the failure to draw investments from China has hurt Indian businesses, and they are quietly lobbying the state to change it's stance on Chinese investments. The economic factor will have tremendous influence on India-China relationship. No matter who, countries around the world just can't thrive by just ignoring China and Chinese money.
We can make fun of India or America all days and I regularly do that myself here. Doesn't change the fact that China already make mistakes admiting India to BRICS in the first place just to get c*ckblocked all days. And now you have Brazil adding to that. Both are clearly not letting China do what they want.
We have Russia to thank for that. Anyways the Indian thing is dying down, they have been kicked by both US and China for a while so they will lay low, for now. They will get a second chance so to speak. As annoying as they are now is not the time. They can get the boot at a more convenient time. For now them laying low will do.
PiSigma
"the engineer"
China didn't make BRICS, it was originally BRIC a investment grouping that was made up by Goldman Sachs.
The name does not matter. We can call it BRICS or whatever but as an organization it is still founded by China and other, not Goldman Sachs. It's not like Goldman Sachs created an entire organization and shove China there.
PiSigma
"the engineer"
Are you trolling?when Goldman Sachs came up with BRIC there is no group. They literally came up with the acronym! So when China and Russia decided to use it and create a group, of course India would be in it, they didn't make up the list. And BRIC is only meant for developing economies that potentially would grow fast based on early 2000s outlook, not a political group. Just because it is turning out to be one doesn't mean that how it was formulated in the first place.