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South Africa, China sign power deals during BRICS summit

South Africa and China on Wednesday signed deals covering emissions technology, electricity transmission and distribution, and nuclear power on the sidelines of the BRICS summit.

The agreements are part of the South African government's efforts to end record power cuts that are a major constraint on economic growth.

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this is pretty nice. China has already been supplying a lot of solar power to South Africa. But if they get involved in nuclear power, it will probably indicate that South Africa is looking for whole spectrum support from China in power sector.
 

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Btw, I do agree with Saudi being the big one here. Although I would put Indonesia pretty close behind if they are also applying.

Argentina has basically surrendered to imf. Useless
US has been on a diplomatic blitz to try and blunt the impact of this BRICs meeting. Their strategy was threefold:

1. Offer the world economic development.
You see this in the Vietnamese agreement, the terms they offered to Saudis, ect.

2. Military engagement. Using the Ukrainian war as pretext for offering US equipment to new customers, getting existing customers to buy more.
You also see this in the military exercises the US runs, in their behavior with the Philippines and with Niger as well, with the drone base, ect. Of course military engagement is not just invasion, but protection as well. The US is already trying to keep Nigeria from invading by sending diplomats over. Their reason is, basically, the coup leaders were western trained, and the US takes care of their own.

3. Internal meddling. See Thailand, Argentina, ect. The US puts up western extremists as candidates in elections and lionizes them, such that even if they lose their elections the Overton window shifts.

These are actions the US is taking to strength their own position. They will also then try to weaken China's positions on these three fronts.

1. China's economy is weak, and therefore cannot develop you.
2. China's military is weak, and therefore cannot protect you.
3. China's government is weak, and cannot offer you legitimacy.

In this way they intend to take over the world.

How does China fight back?
 

CMP

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US has been on a diplomatic blitz to try and blunt the impact of this BRICs meeting. Their strategy was threefold:

1. Offer the world economic development.
You see this in the Vietnamese agreement, the terms they offered to Saudis, ect.

2. Military engagement. Using the Ukrainian war as pretext for offering US equipment to new customers, getting existing customers to buy more.
You also see this in the military exercises the US runs, in their behavior with the Philippines and with Niger as well, with the drone base, ect. Of course military engagement is not just invasion, but protection as well. The US is already trying to keep Nigeria from invading by sending diplomats over. Their reason is, basically, the coup leaders were western trained, and the US takes care of their own.

3. Internal meddling. See Thailand, Argentina, ect. The US puts up western extremists as candidates in elections and lionizes them, such that even if they lose their elections the Overton window shifts.

These are actions the US is taking to strength their own position. They will also then try to weaken China's positions on these three fronts.

1. China's economy is weak, and therefore cannot develop you.
2. China's military is weak, and therefore cannot protect you.
3. China's government is weak, and cannot offer you legitimacy.

In this way they intend to take over the world.

How does China fight back?
Anyone getting tricked by such obvious lies from such obvious tools of state propaganda deserves whatever outcome they get. China doesn't need to "fight back" in this case. Just keep doing business. Keep offering win-win opportunities to those willing and able to take them. Keep offering facts to those willing and able to listen.
 

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US has been on a diplomatic blitz to try and blunt the impact of this BRICs meeting. Their strategy was threefold:

1. Offer the world economic development.
You see this in the Vietnamese agreement, the terms they offered to Saudis, ect.

2. Military engagement. Using the Ukrainian war as pretext for offering US equipment to new customers, getting existing customers to buy more.
You also see this in the military exercises the US runs, in their behavior with the Philippines and with Niger as well, with the drone base, ect. Of course military engagement is not just invasion, but protection as well. The US is already trying to keep Nigeria from invading by sending diplomats over. Their reason is, basically, the coup leaders were western trained, and the US takes care of their own.

3. Internal meddling. See Thailand, Argentina, ect. The US puts up western extremists as candidates in elections and lionizes them, such that even if they lose their elections the Overton window shifts.

These are actions the US is taking to strength their own position. They will also then try to weaken China's positions on these three fronts.

1. China's economy is weak, and therefore cannot develop you.
2. China's military is weak, and therefore cannot protect you.
3. China's government is weak, and cannot offer you legitimacy.

In this way they intend to take over the world.

How does China fight back?
They mostly just do the same things but in opposite direction. I think a large part of China's strategy is also banking on dissatisfaction in American controlled countries to flip more stable countries, while focusing less on underdeveloped countries, where they know loyalty is nebulous at best and rulers tend to flock towards the highest payer.

Overall, China is pushing US across the entire front, ensuring that there will be a few breakthroughs, like for example in the Middle East right now and possibly soon in Africa/South America.

Once a breakthrough is made, China is making these countries publicly piss off America, which causes US either to be forced to show amnesty in order to try and win them back, losing face in the process, or alienate them even more and ensure US can't return there for decades at least. Russia is probably the most extreme example of this, but China is lobbying towards Iraq and Saudi to cut down/ban dollar transactions too, which if US takes sitting down will be an immense loss of face.
 

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US has been on a diplomatic blitz to try and blunt the impact of this BRICs meeting. Their strategy was threefold:

1. Offer the world economic development.
You see this in the Vietnamese agreement, the terms they offered to Saudis, ect.

2. Military engagement. Using the Ukrainian war as pretext for offering US equipment to new customers, getting existing customers to buy more.
You also see this in the military exercises the US runs, in their behavior with the Philippines and with Niger as well, with the drone base, ect. Of course military engagement is not just invasion, but protection as well. The US is already trying to keep Nigeria from invading by sending diplomats over. Their reason is, basically, the coup leaders were western trained, and the US takes care of their own.

3. Internal meddling. See Thailand, Argentina, ect. The US puts up western extremists as candidates in elections and lionizes them, such that even if they lose their elections the Overton window shifts.

These are actions the US is taking to strength their own position. They will also then try to weaken China's positions on these three fronts.

1. China's economy is weak, and therefore cannot develop you.
2. China's military is weak, and therefore cannot protect you.
3. China's government is weak, and cannot offer you legitimacy.

In this way they intend to take over the world.

How does China fight back?
Once you understand the games the US plays it's not hard to figure out how to fight back. I've said it here before that the mistake China can make is trying to fight the US using the same games the Americans want to play. China should look at what makes the US so powerful; the dollar. If the dollar loses its power US hegemony will pretty much crumble.
 
Once you understand the games the US plays it's not hard to figure out how to fight back. I've said it here before that the mistake China can make is trying to fight the US using the same games the Americans want to play. China should look at what makes the US so powerful; the dollar. If the dollar loses its power US hegemony will pretty much crumble.

Plus influence network, highly developed media industry with global reach, control of key technologies, and co-opting of elites in foreign nations.
 

ansy1968

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Once you understand the games the US plays it's not hard to figure out how to fight back. I've said it here before that the mistake China can make is trying to fight the US using the same games the Americans want to play. China should look at what makes the US so powerful; the dollar. If the dollar loses its power US hegemony will pretty much crumble.
Bro the Chinese don't want a dollar collapse, they hold a ton of them. What they want is an another alternative monetary system that will not hampered their business, they prefer to trade and that's her magic sauce that appeal to most of us in the Global South.

And who wouldn't, any biases thrown against the Chinese can't ignore the fact that you need them for your daily modern life to function. And that is the reason why they embedded themselves to the Collective West system, aside from the economic benefit accrued there is a security angle, a deterrent, especially after seeing the aftereffect of sanctioning Russia.

We know how the US played the game, like in basketball they usually overpowered their opponent. China must play on her strength and using the European method seems attractive. ;)
 

Overbom

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US has been on a diplomatic blitz to try and blunt the impact of this BRICs meeting. Their strategy was threefold:

1. Offer the world economic development.
You see this in the Vietnamese agreement, the terms they offered to Saudis, ect.

2. Military engagement. Using the Ukrainian war as pretext for offering US equipment to new customers, getting existing customers to buy more.
You also see this in the military exercises the US runs, in their behavior with the Philippines and with Niger as well, with the drone base, ect. Of course military engagement is not just invasion, but protection as well. The US is already trying to keep Nigeria from invading by sending diplomats over. Their reason is, basically, the coup leaders were western trained, and the US takes care of their own.

3. Internal meddling. See Thailand, Argentina, ect. The US puts up western extremists as candidates in elections and lionizes them, such that even if they lose their elections the Overton window shifts.
4. Paid off India to act as a Trojan horse

In general, China doesn't need to play on the chess board that US wants to play.

Just flipping Middle East towards it would be a major coup for China and a big loss for the US
 
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