BRICS & New World Order Thread

[Dolcevita]

From the looks of things, other nations in BRICS and SCO simply ignore India and do what they need to get done - usually with China. eg Pakistan's BRI projects.

India even refuses to open its market for RCEP, and looks like it won't open its market to anyone who isn't a white anglo and even then, not every anglo american company can make money from India without having it stolen and then being forced to leave the country, rinse and repeat.

Agree on the ignoring India. Just do not allow India to play the spoiler in these organization. India can leave whenever it wants.

i'm not sure why the surprise that India doesn't want a BRICS currency. Such a currency always seemed to make no real sense to me.

If China wants to offer alternatives to USD, it needs to work harder at internationalize RMB. It has plenty of assets it can use to back it. Just needs to figure out the best way to do it.

India will do things that are in India's interests and that means wobbling between different blocs

Again just ignore India. No need to let them act as spoiler.

 

[TK3600]

IMO kicking India is bad for optics. The best course of action is to neutralize India's influence in the organization, then India have the choice of leaving and lose face, or stay and cannot sabotage the operation. For example, forbid India from hosting the meeting now that they blocked member from coming.

Justified or not, internal squabble is not good look. Best to solve the problem without raising a mess.

 

[ansy1968]

IMO kicking India is bad for optics. The best course of action is to neutralize India's influence in the organization, then India have the choice of leaving and lose face, or stay and cannot sabotage the operation. For example, forbid India from hosting the meeting now that they blocked member from coming.

Justified or not, internal squabble is not good look. Best to solve the problem without raising a mess.

Bro my guess in 2028 when China had achieved their Comprehensive National Power, In geopolitics India is irrelevant and in that year I mentioned the gap between the two will even grow larger as China will surpass the American to become the largest economy.

 

[TK3600]

Bro my guess in 2028 when China had achieved their Comprehensive National Power, In geopolitics India is irrelevant and in that year I mentioned the gap between the two will even grow larger as China will surpass the American to become the largest economy.

Sorry, problem do not magically disappear. Peak 1995 USA still have Iran and North Korea as a thorn unable to remove. Indian problem will not magically solve itself once China become stronger than USA. That is just a cope. China's dominance is not at 1995 USA level yet, and India is far stronger than Iran.

The problem is long term, and the solution requires patience as well.

 

[FriedRiceNSpice]

They are a pain in the ass. After a century UK bootlicking that is where they feel comfortable. They should voluntarily leave the club and join NATO or the Five Eyes instead of being a pain in the ass.

From India's point of view, it makes sense to play both sides to maximize advantages to itself. It recognizes that it cannot deal with either side from an equal footing, so has to play both sides against each other.

Sorry, problem do not magically disappear. Peak 1995 USA still have Iran and North Korea as a thorn unable to remove. Indian problem will not magically solve itself once China become stronger than USA. That is just a cope. China's dominance is not at 1995 USA level yet, and India is far stronger than Iran.

The problem is long term, and the solution requires patience as well.

Actually that is a perfect analogy, India presents to China a similar set of issues as the Iran and North Korea does to the US. However, India's strength is irrelevant. US never controlled North Korea nor Iran's literal lifeblood (water), and was never geostrategically positioned at Iran nor North Korea's jugular. It is India's insecurity and fear over this geostrategic reality that causes India to view China with hostility and animosity. On the other hand, this also limits India from considering using force against China, as it risks national suicide by doing so.

 

[vincent]

Actually that is a perfect analogy, India presents to China a similar set of issues as the Iran and North Korea does to the US. However, India's strength is irrelevant. US never controlled North Korea nor Iran's literal lifeblood (water), and was never geostrategically positioned at Iran nor North Korea's jugular. It is India's insecurity and fear over this geostrategic reality that causes India to view China with hostility and animosity. On the other hand, this also limits India from considering using force against China, as it risks national suicide by doing so.

Uh no, China doesn’t control India’s water. Most water in India came from rainfalls in their territories.

 

[henrik]

Sorry, problem do not magically disappear. Peak 1995 USA still have Iran and North Korea as a thorn unable to remove. Indian problem will not magically solve itself once China become stronger than USA. That is just a cope. China's dominance is not at 1995 USA level yet, and India is far stronger than Iran.

The problem is long term, and the solution requires patience as well.

India's strength is in its huge population. The world needs Iran, Pakistan and Bangladesh together for the containment of a hostile India.

 

[ansy1968]

India's strength is in its huge population. The world needs Iran, Pakistan and Bangladesh together for the containment of a hostile India.

Bro instead of demographic dividend it had become an economic bane on their resources that is the MAIN REASON for their irrelevancy, nobody want to take human import from India as they plan to export themselves out of poverty.

 

[IpWoman]

Bro instead of demographic dividend it had become an economic bane on their resources that is the MAIN REASON for their irrelevancy, nobody want to take human import from India as they plan to export themselves out of poverty.

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[henrik]

Bro instead of demographic dividend it had become an economic bane on their resources that is the MAIN REASON for their irrelevancy, nobody want to take human import from India as they plan to export themselves out of poverty.

You are right that they are exporting their people, that is why they always stress easier work visa application for Indians, when signing trade treaty with other countries.